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Social Worker Tribunal

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Manderleyagain · 17/10/2022 10:23

Tribunaltweets are reporting from a social worker's fitness to practice tribunal. They are not naming the social worker - just initials RM. I believe the case has been discussed here before but as they are not naming I won't find old threads.

mobile.twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1581922786204753920L

Social Work England found against her for criticising mermaids and putting other gender critical posts on her Facebook. There were no complaints about her actual work. She is now having a fitness to practice hearing but SWE, a few days before the hearing, decided not to defend their decisions. It sounds like they are applying to withdraw allegations.
SWE's barrister is Robin White.

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Signalbox · 17/10/2022 13:14

I hope SWE aren’t allowed to withdraw and this whole shitshow, and their role in it, gets blasted for everyone to see.

I guess that will happen at the employment tribunal.

Datun · 17/10/2022 13:12

If they're not held accountable for what they have put her through, it's just sending a message to every other person who works in that profession that they have to keep their mouth shut, otherwise they'll be subjected to two years of hell, before the case being dropped at the last minute.

Not acceptable.

The official warning followed a complaint by a single person that posts by the social worker on her private Facebook page were ‘offensive’ and ‘disgusting’ because they criticised the concept of gender identity. SWE’s decision followed receipt of submissions on the case.

A single, solitary person.

It's stark, staring mad to have allowed these people to wield such power. In social work!

The very profession who you think would be uber aware of manipulation, intimidation and coercion.

But, answering my own query, it's probably why they have been targeted so relentlessly. Same with the police, teachers, the NHS and HCPs.

www.ebswa.org/post/social-work-england-withdraws-case-against-gender-critical-social-worker

PinkFrogss · 17/10/2022 13:00

I hope SWE aren’t allowed to withdraw and this whole shitshow, and their role in it, gets blasted for everyone to see.

If they are allowed to not go ahead then people will make up their own interpretations of the case, if they are able to give their side then it is much easier to dismantle and show how ridiculous the whole thing is.

TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 13:00

It would be good to get it on record that looking at Mermaids, Stonewall et al with a critical eye is exactly what our social workers should be doing (along with all the other little orgs that do training on EDI type things in our schools, not just the specific LGBT ones).

Chrysanthemum5 · 17/10/2022 12:51

Been adjourned until 2.30pm to allow the panel to decide whether SWE are allowed to not go ahead. They are basing it on the belief that there has been new evidence so their original decision to sanction has been updated. RM and her team are arguing that the evidence is not new so want it to go ahead. I guess to get a clean record and apology?

ArabellaScott · 17/10/2022 12:13

Never mind apology, I hope she is awarded substantial damages.

Also, the social worker is also taking SWE and her employer to employment tribunal

RoyalCorgi · 17/10/2022 12:07

And that SWE are not defending it because they know they are in the wrong.

They must know they're in the wrong. The social worker was disciplined/suspended for writing social media posts critical of Mermaids. Given that it has now emerged that Mermaids broke safeguarding rules, employed an apologist for paedophilia as a trustee and is now being investigated by the Charities Commission, it would be a difficult case for SWE to argue. Frankly, I hope they issue her a grovelling apology.

Signalbox · 17/10/2022 11:56

Igmum · 17/10/2022 10:37

If SWE have withdrawn the allegations, why is there a hearing? (IANAL so apologies if there is an obvious answer to this). Good luck RM and SP.

IANAL either but I wonder if this case is complicated by the fact that RM initially accepted a "warning" from SWE that she now (in hindsight) believes was discriminatory. It may be that a hearing is the only way that this sanction can be removed from her record. And that SWE are not defending it because they know they are in the wrong.

RoyalCorgi · 17/10/2022 11:36

Having looked at her allotment, it seems that because SWE has decided not to defend the case, the tribunal will only be two days rather than five, and it's not clear whether the court will allow SWE to discontinue the case or will insist on proceeding. Which is mad.

Also, the social worker is also taking SWE and her employer to employment tribunal in December. That should be worth watching. And gardening for.

JanieAllen · 17/10/2022 11:27

gosh just looked at her allotment it looks like she needs a lot more veg...

TheBiologyStupid · 17/10/2022 11:14

ChlorineChris · 17/10/2022 10:41

Yes, the one whose book was shredded in this scathing review: www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/02/a-practical-guide/

Cuck00soup · 17/10/2022 10:59

Watching with interest & wishing RM look. Glad that Sarah P is representing her.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/10/2022 10:58

SWE’s prejudice and incompetence have fucked up this poor woman’s life for 2 years and now they want to quietly drop it

I hope she sues the shit out of them. Or not. Whatever brings her peace. But I’d very much like to see them get their comeuppance

TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 10:58

TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 10:54

Certainly very fortunate in getting on some cases of high interest to GC feminists. Alison Bailey, Sarah vs the Rape crisis centre and now this one

Robin works for trans claimants as well as against GC ones:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tribunal-rejects-trans-discrimination-claim-nwsmrls9q

Quoting myself to add a second, non paywalled link:
theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/23/transgender-journalist-discrimination-claim-times-newspaper

Manderleyagain · 17/10/2022 10:55

Shortpoet · 17/10/2022 10:49

I believe the very same.

Certainly very fortunate in getting on some cases of high interest to GC feminists. Alison Bailey, Sarah vs the Rape crisis centre and now this one.

Could anyone with a legal background give insight into how cases are allocated? I know it is cab rank principal for criminal defendants, but I’m unsure how it works for tribunals etc.

Afaik you can request a specific barrister if you know of them. So they must build up a reputation in a general area.

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TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 10:54

Certainly very fortunate in getting on some cases of high interest to GC feminists. Alison Bailey, Sarah vs the Rape crisis centre and now this one

Robin works for trans claimants as well as against GC ones:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tribunal-rejects-trans-discrimination-claim-nwsmrls9q

Shortpoet · 17/10/2022 10:50

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 17/10/2022 10:48

Does having a Fitness to Practice case against you which is subsequently dropped affect your future employability and standing in the profession? Having the case dropped doesn't sound like a full vindication - can the Social Worker take any steps to make SWE go further in admitting how wrong they were?

I’d be interested in that. What is the legal standing now for the social worker?

Shortpoet · 17/10/2022 10:49

I believe the very same.

Certainly very fortunate in getting on some cases of high interest to GC feminists. Alison Bailey, Sarah vs the Rape crisis centre and now this one.

Could anyone with a legal background give insight into how cases are allocated? I know it is cab rank principal for criminal defendants, but I’m unsure how it works for tribunals etc.

FaazoHuyzeoSix · 17/10/2022 10:48

Does having a Fitness to Practice case against you which is subsequently dropped affect your future employability and standing in the profession? Having the case dropped doesn't sound like a full vindication - can the Social Worker take any steps to make SWE go further in admitting how wrong they were?

TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 10:48

Yes.

This Robin Moira White.

becomingmoira.blogspot.com

I expect Robin will pop up on Mumsnet later to furiously deny having had any responsibility for the legendarily awful bundles at Allison Bailey’s hearing.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 17/10/2022 10:46

That's the one, Chlorine.

I'll say no more, lest it gets deleted.

ChlorineChris · 17/10/2022 10:41

This Robin White?

www.personneltoday.com/hr/what-is-a-woman-robin-moira-white-transgender-rights/

Shortpoet · 17/10/2022 10:40

Infuriating that she has been so badly let down I mean

TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 10:40

Fingers crossed for RM.

Feels a bit like stars have aligned re: timings for the hearing, now that Mermaids’ safeguarding has been exposed as non existent, don’t want to jinx anything though!

Shortpoet · 17/10/2022 10:39

I found it hard to follow the tweets, but really feel for her. The stress and financial cost for her over the last couple of years must be huge and for SWE to announce at last minute they wouldn’t defend their case while on one hand must be a relief, but on the other must be infuriating.