TRAs celebrating Robbie Coltrane's death

This well said

This.

Norton has told people to go and listen to one side of this debate only, by talking to trans people. No doubt then that he would be fine to listen to a trans celeb because they’re trans.

But the other side of the debate is women. JK Rowling is a woman as well as a celeb. He has minimised her to just a celeb, conveniently forgetting that as a woman, she is the qualified to speak on this issue and represents many of our views. Because it suits his narrative.

Graham’s comments are very disappointing. He hasn’t hung around to be accountable like he has said people should be. He hasn’t been bullied off Twitter, he’s chosen to leave because he’d rather not listen to women. What a nasty, ignorant little man.

Yes, this portion of this group of people are Vile.
Some people just have no respect, you find them in all walks of life and they should be highlighted as the vile people they are, regardless of anything else.

Could you possibly explain what you mean by GC please

Well you believe that men can become women so I'll take what you believe with a pinch of salt.

What does this response have to do with the comment you’ve quoted? Whether women are GC or they’re not, surely women are still the best people to consult on the topic of what it is to be women?

Your response has the same level of sense as if you’d quoted a post saying ‘I believe that the best people to talk about the Black experience are Black people’ and you’d replied ‘some cars have only three wheels.’

You believe most women don't want rights and equality?

I'd love to see your results post research on that one, naturally demonstrating drawing from wide sections of society and diverse populations of females, age, race, faith, that kind of characteristic. Or are we using 'most women' there to mean 'me and my small circle of mates' again?

How are you defining "women" there?

"And if you want to know about women, what it feels like to be one, the spaces they use, and why they are asserting their rights to their their own privacy, talk to them. Easy."

I believe most women do not hold a gender critical position.

The clock ticks, night starts to fall, glaciers melt ….

Still waiting ….

Agree. Any transperson or ally who doesn't staunchly and unequivocally call this out I will deem as not only perfectly happy with it but also perfectly happy to be associated with and have these people speak for them.

Works both ways after all, eh @MargaritaPie ?

Considering she's been named in almost every article as one of the foremost celebs supporting Mermaids as the Mermaids bin fire continues? And that she will have seen what happened to the lad who played Draco for trying to make a neutral statement and not shouting to burn the witch?

The poor woman is probably doing the only thing she can in staying off Twitter. As this incident around RC shows: this whole situation involves some very unwell, unstable and unpleasant people.

And if you want to know about women, what it feels like to be one, the spaces they use, and why they are asserting their rights to their their own privacy, talk to them. Easy.

Maybe because EW knows how toxic Twitter is and she'd be bullied off it, just as Graham Norton was for saying "If you want to know about trans, talk to trans people and their families."

Wouldn't expect anything less tbh.

Very interesting that Emma Watson didn't put her tribute on Twitter. Very interesting indeed. It's almost as if she doesn't want to acknowledge what would be staring her in the face if she had.

Disgusting, but sadly unsurprising. RIP, Robbie.

Death threats, rape threats, publishing someones address & attempting to destroy their career or income are not 'calling out' JKR.

There is no law that says JKR has to do what children on twitter who add nothing to society or GDP (both of which JKR has done & continues to do) say.

They have no right to the astonishing level of arrogance to think they have the right to direct someone elses opinions or beliefs.

Twitter are appalling at dealing with abusers of real women, it's only pretend ones they protect from the real world where nobody really believes you can change sex.

So awful. It really reflects badly on the whole trans ally community I'm afraid.

Good to see you taking a break from plugging the sex industry to support the transactivist cause of vilifying dead people who don’t agree with them, @MargaritaPie. So progressive! 👍

I think the big yin Robbie might have loved a bit of Margarita Pracatan

There's clearly something wrong with people who think like this, let alone express it so freely in public.

I’m confused. When has anyone GC ever cheered the death of a trans person or supporter of trans rights? Can you link? All I ever see is compassion towards anyone who has lost their life. For example when Dave Chapelle came out as “team TERF” and spoke about his dear trans friend who got hounded to death by TRAs in his recent Netflix special. I certainly never see aggressive death threats like I’ve seen from TRAs for anyone who doesn’t toe the party line.

Absolutely disgusting and completely predictable. But, both sides, amiright?

RIP Robbie Coltrane, such a great talent.