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the not so nice Jan Morris

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JanieAllen · 15/10/2022 09:20

Review of new book about Jan Morris 'disgracefully self centred' after having Jan Morris shoved down our throats this really cheered me up.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jan-morris-by-paul-clements-review-pqtd7z7jl

archive here archive.ph/usCl8

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 15/10/2022 09:43

Poor Henry. That is a very skilled statement conveying a lot of pain.

KatMcBundleFace · 15/10/2022 09:43

Interesting to have different perspectives isn't it?

beastlyslumber · 15/10/2022 09:40

Another abusive narcissistic male. Quel surprise.

TrainedByCats · 15/10/2022 09:37

Aside from the misuse of pronouns I thought this quote was telling

‘Her second son, Henry, chose to go and live abroad. Asked about Morris after her death, he said: “We were introduced, but we never actually got to know each other.

Even in carefully chosen photos in old age Morris didn’t ever pass

JanieAllen · 15/10/2022 09:37

yes ! fantastic to have the fantasy of James Morris punctured in the Times! AT BLOODY LAST! God I feel sorry for Elizabeth 50's wife unable to tell him to fuck off.

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noraclavicle · 15/10/2022 09:34

“[Morris’s] groundbreaking memoir on the transition, Conundrum, which revealed nothing about [his] sexual life, sharply divided opinions. It was a bestseller that attracted ridicule and was condemned as mawkish and coy. Germaine Greer dismissed its “self-indulgent impressionistic prose” and commented shrewdly, “Elizabeth’s unbroken silence is the truest measure of Jan Morris’s enduring masculinity” (“Dead right,” Morris’s daughter Suki said later).”

I’m sure this all sounds horribly familiar to the Transwidows. Morris laid the groundwork alright.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/10/2022 09:32

Several great comments - loved this one:

"Jan didn't identify into child-rearing, housekeeping, laundry, cooking, remembering family birthdays, school runs... For that, Jan had a reliable support human. A wife."