USA: Trans women must register for draft

The whole thing is a total piss take.

Exactly. Women are being shafted in plain sight while the menz ring fence their rights and swan off into the sunset.

And the harms to children don’t matter either of course. The administration clearly don’t think you can change sex, but it’s ok to lie to gay, autistic and unhappy children that you can and lead them into harming their bodies. Because woke cookies and big business.

They just draw the line at anyone using gender self ID to undermine power structures instead of reinforcing them.

It's not really a thing. No one actually gets conscripted currently. Men aged 18 to 25 have to register for the draft. I think many states require you to have done this before you can claim student aid and other benefits.

It's not like Israel or similar where everyone is expected to do 2 years plus of military service from aged 18.

I must admit, I had no idea that conscription was still a thing in the US.

Yep. If they want you as cannon fodder all the faux naivety suddenly evaporates, eh.

Want to access women in prison? Go right ahead, help yourself!

All of this ^

But of course they’ll be men. Women don’t get drafted. Only men. It just is further proof no one actually believes TWAW in any way.

Here is your answer...

www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/rachel-levine

And ofc they will sleep in the women’s quarters, hasn’t it been established that women’s comfort, privacy, safety, etc count for nothing?

they will be called she and mam while they will also fulfil their duty along all the other men being drafted.

it’s clear where women’s are concerned, men’s interests prevail and while the state knows well which one is what and will not allow TWAW to get in the way of state’s interests, the state will otherwise allow men to do as they please

why would the army care what these men wear? As long as they are there, they will probably allow them, to placate them and foresee any lawsuits, to wear the female uniforms.

they already have that old man on a high position in the military wearing dresses etc.

No, they’ll be women on the parade ground, wearing womens’ uniforms.
Just because you’re drafted, that doesn’t change who you are.

Will they? Won't they have to wear what uniform they're given and told to wear? Genuine question. Does the US army allow biological males who identify as women to wear female uniforms? Are they allowed to sleep in the female quarters?

This.

it’s staggering how people, men and many women as well, don’t care about girls and women or their empathy gets hijacked and goes only one way, to men.

before this, I wouldn’t have thought that women matter so little. Especially to other women.

@PaterPower
Incidentally, the whole “no deployment in the middle of transitioning” seems like a handy ‘get out of the war zone free’ card to any man that wants to use it.

It doesn’t work like that. You need your COs permission for any non urgent medical procedures that might affect your fitness to deploy. This includes even things like lasik for your vision. So you submit a request for when you are in your home duty station window so that you can have the surgery and be through recovery before your next deployment window comes up.

They’re not women, in or out of uniform.

That aside, the point you’re determined on missing (although I suspect you understand it perfectly) is that the current US Govt will treat trans women as “women” in civvy life, but will not extend that to draftees.

Actual women can’t currently be drafted in the US; ergo by making an individual subject to the draft, the US Govt recognises that that individual is male.

Incidentally, the whole “no deployment in the middle of transitioning” seems like a handy ‘get out of the war zone free’ card to any man that wants to use it.

Does transitioning by this rule only mean if the man’s actually started to undertake surgery? Does he get away with it if he just books in a date with a doctor? What if he’s just started socially transitioning at this point?

Yes I know. I was in the military. And the BDUs you linked to are not the dress uniform worn for “parade grounds.” There are subtle differences between mens and womens uniforms. Although they are currently designing unisex dress uniforms, even then I expect they will be tailored differently as even the BDUs are.

Ah, so you also do not agree with the post I was responding to which said
Women in the street, men on the parade ground...

Just for different reasons. Initially sounded like you agreed with the above.

I think your sex makes you male or female, man or woman. So wearing a skirt at any point has no bearing on it. They're not women out of uniform, which the government has acknowledged if they are saying that trans women will still be drafted. It's not willfully obtuse to say that humans can't change sex.

"Women's uniforms"? Like this you mean? US Army male and female soldiers

Or are you saying that transwomen, but not women of course (because they are exactly the same right) will get special dispensation to wear skirts, heels and pearls? Otherwise, they'll be wearing standard army uniform that fits them.

Obtuse is in the eye of the beholder. I think you’re being obtuse. If they’re women out of uniform, then why do you think they change to men when in uniform? Does a military uniform make you a man? It’s your view that makes no sense.

No, you have it wrong. Transpeople in the middle of transitioning were by Executive Order declared not fit to join the military, or not fit for deployment if already in the military. The first was because they didn’t want transpeople joining the military just to get free healthcare to transition. The second was purely due to the physical fitness impacts of multiple major surgeries and the fact that proper aftercare is not available in theatres of operations (war zones).

No mention was made of ‘illness’ mental or otherwise.

Ah today it's willfully obtuse.

Because men's cowardice is infinitely greater than their sexual desires and fetishes?

That is about the only explanation I can think of, but i don't believe it.

Also a backfiring for TRAs who were OUTRAGED that trans people that wanted to be in the military would be considered not fit for service because of mental health issues (think it might have been Trump that delivered that one? And it might have been rescinded?).

No, they’ll be women on the parade ground, wearing womens’ uniforms.

Just because you’re drafted, that doesn’t change who you are.