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Binding Breasts

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notidentifying22 · 12/10/2022 04:22

The latest from Lucy Leader discussing the dangers of breast binding and the complicity of LLLI in promoting a lifestyle that regards this action as harmless. Chest binding: A modern Day Version of Foot Binding

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Spottybluepyjamas · 14/10/2022 09:32

ah no.... there is little difference. You should try it!

I don't think that's true - I wear a very supportive sports bra most days, and my breasts have definitely not been flattened or look anything like breasts do after binding.

If it were true then wouldn't Mermaids just provide sports bras and avoid the controversy?

ControversialOpening · 14/10/2022 00:30

ah no.... there is little difference. You should try it!

In that case why does anyone need a binder? They can just wear a sports bra, problem solved.

FrankTheThunderbird · 14/10/2022 00:00

When I wear a sports bra I look like someone with massive boobs that are very well supported.

If I bound them and still looked like someone with massive breasts then I could only conclude that breast binding was pointless.

LaughingPriest · 13/10/2022 23:57

“Experiencing any health outcome related to binding was nearly universal, with 97.2% of participants reporting at least one negative outcome they attributed to binding.

It's interesting that the study showed this but also tried to balance it with 'mental health benefits'. How can you weigh them up? Lots of people are unhappy with their bodies and undergo risky procedures to try and change it but that's usually a 'one-off' so the risk isn't constantly compounded by doing something daily.

postcardpuffin · 13/10/2022 23:49

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:39

ah no.... there is little difference. You should try it!

Eh? sports bras don’t make your breasts flat, stretched and saggy. Whereas binders do. One of the negative effects is that the breasts look cosmetically awful after binding - flat and saggy. Thus, of course, intensifying the girl’s “dysphoria” about them and reinforcing the desire to remove them.

Just one more of those supposed “reversible” interventions that actually makes it more likely that girls will want a mastectomy and negative body image much more entrenched.

So much of all of this is bound up with girls’ anxiety about the aesthetics of their bodies and how they match up - or don’t - to social standards and norms. If you’re not “pretty” it’s easy to decide your anxiety about your body is because it isn’t the “right” body. And then when binding makes your breasts look awful, it makes things ten times worse.

Anyone advocating these things for kids is SO much a part of the problem. What you want is for girls to feel bad about their bodies, and tell them that that’s right, they should. And to assuage if they should adopt this restrictive device that makes them look worse and intensifies their feelings. It’s not a treatment; it’s part of continuing and entrenching the negativity and the mental distress.

It’s the very opposite of body positive and accepting and freeing. I’d go so far as to say it’s actually quite evil what you’re doing, @MishyJDI . You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to make young girls, children, hate their bodies and feel even worse about themselves, rather than grow and recover and learn to like themselves and their bodies instead.

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:40

LaughingPriest · 13/10/2022 23:38

Aha! I know that when people discuss the harmful effects of breast-binding for people that believe that being a man means having a certain type of body, they get very distracted if I say something stupid like 'it's the same as a sports bra' because literally everyone knows that's false. So it's a great way to get everyone posting about how dishonest I am rather than the actual point of the OP.

Got that over with, let's get back to the OP. Yes I agree that bound feet are awful to look at - another case where people believe a body has to look a certain way to 'match' expectations.

so why are you trying to police how a trans person views their body? Now there is a thought.

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:39

Datun · 13/10/2022 23:37

A sports bra is designed to prevent discomfort to the breasts when doing sport. You can't wear a binder to do sport, because you can't breathe properly.

A binder is the opposite of a sports bra.

One aids women and girls in sport, the other prevents them from doing it.

God, these arguments are absolute drivel.

ah no.... there is little difference. You should try it!

LaughingPriest · 13/10/2022 23:38

Aha! I know that when people discuss the harmful effects of breast-binding for people that believe that being a man means having a certain type of body, they get very distracted if I say something stupid like 'it's the same as a sports bra' because literally everyone knows that's false. So it's a great way to get everyone posting about how dishonest I am rather than the actual point of the OP.

Got that over with, let's get back to the OP. Yes I agree that bound feet are awful to look at - another case where people believe a body has to look a certain way to 'match' expectations.

Datun · 13/10/2022 23:37

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:31

Anyone ever worn a sports bra? ummmm....yeah!

A sports bra is designed to prevent discomfort to the breasts when doing sport. You can't wear a binder to do sport, because you can't breathe properly.

A binder is the opposite of a sports bra.

One aids women and girls in sport, the other prevents them from doing it.

God, these arguments are absolute drivel.

MishyJDI · 13/10/2022 23:31

Anyone ever worn a sports bra? ummmm....yeah!

FemaleAndLearning · 13/10/2022 23:30

I believe you can see the effects of breast binding on this plastic surgery site. You can see the flattening and how low the nipples are on these young women. The larger their cup size the worse the flattening appears. www.thecenterforcosmeticsurgery.net/breast/ftm-chest-masculinization/

MrsMidClegs · 13/10/2022 22:33

That photo of the bound feet is horrifying.

Thanks for sharing the article.

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