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Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed vs Eddie Izzard

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fromorbit · 11/10/2022 15:19

If you are based in Sheffield please lend your support to Abtisam Mohamed a strong local woman candidate, a solicitor of Yemeni descent and longstanding Labour Councillor who has done valuable local work for the community including on nurseries. Sheffield Central is a safe Labour seat so whoever is selected is going to Parliament. Eddie Izzard has also launched a campaign but besides being a celebrity, has more glitz than steel, hasn't lived in Sheffield since being a student, plus as we all know is unclear about who they are.

Mohamed has an inspiring story, worked her way up to get a great career going and is focused on getting practical stuff done. She will make a great MP.

Abtisam Mohamed interview
www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-councillor-launches-her-bid-to-become-a-city-mp-3871921

Abtisam Mohamed Campaign page including a great video lots on her local concerns for the city:
abtisammohamed.com/

In contrast Izzard's campaign, getting loads of press coverage, is thin on detail:
www.eddieizzard.uk/

The local paper talked to people who questioned Izzard's chance of winning a few months back:

"In contrast, Jane Armstrong questioned her claim to run in the city.

She wrote: “I had heard this for a while and if she is fancying Central I know a lot of Labour members in that area who are really hostile to having her as a candidate. Not because she isn't nice person, but because people do not like celebrities being parachuted into wards above local candidates."
www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/eddie-izzard-sheffield-readers-share-their-thoughts-on-comedians-bid-to-be-city-centrals-next-mp-3821984?itm_source=parsely-api

Apparently several other councillors may be standing as well so it should be an interesting contest.

I am not sure when the cut off point if you join Labour locally you will get to vote on who the candidate is. The actual contest has not yet begun yet but if I were local I would be signing up.

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fromorbit · 13/10/2022 10:03

Abtisam Mohamed spoke at a demo in support of the revolution against the Iranian state a few days ago:

"I spoke today in solidarity with the Iranian people in their struggle against the oppressive regime.
Women should be able to choose what they wear, wherever they live.
My sisters, in Iran we stand with you. We are on the same side, the side that demands freedom."

twitter.com/Abtisam_Mohamed/status/1579195629691351040

Abtisam Mohamed on one of her best achievements:
"Last week, I went to visit the nursery I helped to establish, Fir Vale Children’s Centre. The centre is a charity providing essential early years and childcare services to a deprived area."
twitter.com/Abtisam_Mohamed/status/1579474819292499969

KJK has thrown her support behind Abtisam Mohamed:

"Let me just assure each and everyone one of you, if this young woman gets the seat, than there is no place for me in Sheffield. Absolutely no way and no reason for us (SFW - Standing for Women) to get involved"
-- Kellie-Jay -----

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1580207958084182016

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Helleofabore · 13/10/2022 06:22

colouringindoors · 12/10/2022 22:50

Saw an excellent video interview of two female Iranian activists. Asked by presenter if wearing a hijab could be empowering as some in West think. They looked at him like he'd grown horns. And replied immediately saying it's repressive.

Well, I am sure that twitterengineer will come back and tell us whether or not they think 7 year old girls should have any choice about wearing it AND whether a group of males should be treated differently for safeguarding and, indeed, investigations into sexual assaults and rape claims.

Because that is what twiterengineer is calling Islamophobic and vilifying Kellie Jay Keen for saying should not happen.

Almost like some posters take their view from accusations from twitter without actually looking at what those accusations are based on.

Almost like some posters take every opportunity to shame non-conforming women who don’t agree with them and just repeat old trope to do so, while never genuinely engaging in topics. Just plop, admonish, demonise, denigrate and run.

Whatever could motivate that? Well, misogyny seems to continue to be very prevalent whatever the gender identity a male identifies as.

Wafflesnsniffles · 12/10/2022 23:09

Seeing this headline made me want to move back to Sheffield just so that I could vote for whoever is standing opposite him.

colouringindoors · 12/10/2022 22:53

BlackForestCake · 12/10/2022 10:25

This is nuts. Dozens of misogynist Greens are saying they will campaign against the Green candidate and for Izzard. All the left and environmental policies don't matter a jot. They'll support a Blairite who's "trans inclusive" over their own party. They don't care about anything else. (Just search Sheffield Green Party on Twitter for this)

FFS! So much for saving the planet!

colouringindoors · 12/10/2022 22:50

Saw an excellent video interview of two female Iranian activists. Asked by presenter if wearing a hijab could be empowering as some in West think. They looked at him like he'd grown horns. And replied immediately saying it's repressive.

colouringindoors · 12/10/2022 22:47

Izzard stands against a muslim woman active in the community, who's worked with excluded kids etc.

He's repugnant.

DameMaud · 12/10/2022 22:42

ValerieDoonican · 12/10/2022 22:35

OMIGOD that typo there. I did not mean to write bum journey!!! it was meant to read "um" - journey. ogodogodogdod

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ValerieDoonican · 12/10/2022 22:35

OMIGOD that typo there. I did not mean to write bum journey!!! it was meant to read "um" - journey. ogodogodogdod

ValerieDoonican · 12/10/2022 22:34

I was thinking about this this evening, and why it annoyed me so much. I realised that like so many people who share EI's -bum - journey, Eddie is mainly interested in Eddie, talks about Eddie, promotes Eddie, assumes we are interested, and is blithely convinced that whatever happens to suit Eddie, is automatically good for everyone.

This is tiresome in a 'sleb' but can be ignored with an eyeroll. It's completely the wrong set of priorities for an MP who is representing and serving 10s of 1000s of other people. It seems to me Eddie is all about the fantasy of standing up in the green benches and the attention, and I suspect, would struggle to focus on the real, dull, ordinary, difficult, tedious, unglamorous problems of actual Sheffield people.

Clearly there are many politicians who are similar - BJ and Truss spring to mind and from the past, Alan Clark was an obvious offender ("What shall I wear to my first cabinet meeting?" or whatever it was!) Labour has its share as well. They're all terrible. Someone as interested in themself as EI is, is wholly unsuited to be an MP, IMO.

goldfinchonthelawn · 12/10/2022 14:43

I think Eddie Izzard is the most fame hungry celeb ever. He makes David Walliams look shy.

NCFT0922 · 12/10/2022 14:40

@NotNowFGS majority now would fall under Sheffield central.

Boomboom22 · 12/10/2022 14:36

It would be awful for the whole country if EI got in, an absolute joke. He's always been me, me, me. His whole act was about how selfish he is and labour seem to think it's OK to be associated with this. Labour need some decent new entries not joke candidates.

TheClogLady · 12/10/2022 14:19

Sounds like Mike has the contacts to rustle up bums on seats for the vote?

That’s what it usually comes down to at these elections, women often lose out because other women find it harder to get to CLP meetings due to family commitments (and lefty men tend to chose other lefty men) - presume the vote is in-person, secret ballot?

My Labour MP has been in seat since before I joined/lived here, so I’ve only ever voted on cllr selections and internal party positions.

tangledyarn · 12/10/2022 14:03

Mike Buckley has been Sheffield CLP campaign coordinator for quite a while so will probably have a good level of support within the constituency.

fromorbit · 12/10/2022 13:08

The third candidate is Abdi Suleiman is a former student at Sheffield Uni, activist, Corbyn supporter and seems like a pretty impressive speaker. Think this is going to be an interesting campaign.
abdisuleiman.co.uk/

Abdi might take a lot of the student vote and also the left vote rather than more Centerist Izzard... especially as some of the Trans crowd are going to talk Izzard down

The fourth candidate is Mike Buckley a former aid worker, Labour advisor etc. twitter.com/mdbuckley/status/1578397675401220101

Abtisam seems the most grounded so far. Being a leading local councillor means she is going to have a lot of local support.

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TheClogLady · 12/10/2022 13:01

Just taking a moment to enjoy how close Sheffield Central is to Miriam Cates’ constituency…

Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed  vs Eddie Izzard
Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed  vs Eddie Izzard
Helleofabore · 12/10/2022 12:58

who has made islamophobic remarks in the past

Tell us twitterengineer, do you think that any group of males should be protected in any way from being scrutinised when it comes to safeguarding children or women? That when investigating crimes against children and women no group should be considered untouchable for any reason?

Tell us teitterengineer do you understand how the Rotherham gang continued for so long? Are you not angry that a group of males raped and sexually assaulted children and there may have been unacceptable reasons they were not caught earlier?

Are you not determined to make sure that doesn’t happen again with ANY group of males?

Or are you just repeating things you have pick up on twitter without going and seeing the context of what she said and why?

Or did you just plop that post down again, as you typically do and never once answer the posts that point out your falsehoods?

TheClogLady · 12/10/2022 11:35

Adieufattummy · 12/10/2022 11:05

And especially with Eddie - what’s his hold over Lorraine? There has got to be some back story!

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 12/10/2022 11:28

I don't know what KJK said, but slagging off hijab on kids is a pretty mainstream view.

Pyjamagame · 12/10/2022 11:26

Abtisam_Mohamed is her Twitter handle, if anyone wants to find her on Twitter. Lots of evidence of her engagement with the community.

PronounssheRa · 12/10/2022 11:21

bellinisurge · 12/10/2022 11:11

Not sure how Kelly-Jay Keen criticising the hijab is Islamophobic considering what is going on in Iran right now. It's about choice. You want to wear it? Fine. That's how you feel you want to present yourself to the God you believe in and the world around you. However, you don't get to force anyone else to do it.

Quite. People talk a lot about how the hijab is empowering, but surely that can only be the case if you have a real choice about whether to wear it or not.

balzamico · 12/10/2022 11:19

I live in this ward, EI got a lot of social media publicity for doorstep campaigning recently (lots of selfies).
However, I was appalled by their performance on BBC Question Time when it came from Sheffield some weeks ago, Louise Haigh (local labour MP, shadow cabinet I think) responded really calmly and knowledgably to a fairly aggressive line of questioning. EI seemed to give the same answer (that without a windfall tax, the energy companies should voluntarily handover their profits) to every single question - it was bizarre, he literally had nothing else to say.
For that reason and for the fact that Abtisam Mohammed has been working in and for Sheffield for some years, EI will not be getting my vote.
Interesting point made by PPs about a white privileged male parachuting in

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/10/2022 11:15

NotNowFGS · 12/10/2022 10:45

Not sure but think the bulk of students will be in the Sheffield Hallam constituency.

They used to be. But they are gradually all moving nearer to the centre.

bellinisurge · 12/10/2022 11:11

Not sure how Kelly-Jay Keen criticising the hijab is Islamophobic considering what is going on in Iran right now. It's about choice. You want to wear it? Fine. That's how you feel you want to present yourself to the God you believe in and the world around you. However, you don't get to force anyone else to do it.

Adieufattummy · 12/10/2022 11:05

twitter.com/reallorraine/status/1579885962087215105

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Appalling handmaiden