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Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed vs Eddie Izzard

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fromorbit · 11/10/2022 15:19

If you are based in Sheffield please lend your support to Abtisam Mohamed a strong local woman candidate, a solicitor of Yemeni descent and longstanding Labour Councillor who has done valuable local work for the community including on nurseries. Sheffield Central is a safe Labour seat so whoever is selected is going to Parliament. Eddie Izzard has also launched a campaign but besides being a celebrity, has more glitz than steel, hasn't lived in Sheffield since being a student, plus as we all know is unclear about who they are.

Mohamed has an inspiring story, worked her way up to get a great career going and is focused on getting practical stuff done. She will make a great MP.

Abtisam Mohamed interview
www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/sheffield-councillor-launches-her-bid-to-become-a-city-mp-3871921

Abtisam Mohamed Campaign page including a great video lots on her local concerns for the city:
abtisammohamed.com/

In contrast Izzard's campaign, getting loads of press coverage, is thin on detail:
www.eddieizzard.uk/

The local paper talked to people who questioned Izzard's chance of winning a few months back:

"In contrast, Jane Armstrong questioned her claim to run in the city.

She wrote: “I had heard this for a while and if she is fancying Central I know a lot of Labour members in that area who are really hostile to having her as a candidate. Not because she isn't nice person, but because people do not like celebrities being parachuted into wards above local candidates."
www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/eddie-izzard-sheffield-readers-share-their-thoughts-on-comedians-bid-to-be-city-centrals-next-mp-3821984?itm_source=parsely-api

Apparently several other councillors may be standing as well so it should be an interesting contest.

I am not sure when the cut off point if you join Labour locally you will get to vote on who the candidate is. The actual contest has not yet begun yet but if I were local I would be signing up.

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Hoppinggreen · 18/10/2022 14:23

GrabbyGabby · 18/10/2022 12:46

To be fair, Nadine Dorries ate kangaroo testicles live on telly and ended up minister for culture. I don't think standards are what they once were.

True but I don’t think wearing a swimming cozzie on TV helped Mordaunts career much

TheClogLady · 18/10/2022 12:46

Tangental thought re: how porn soaked our culture has gotten in the interim years… the cigarette will probably garner more criticism than the undercrackers!

GrabbyGabby · 18/10/2022 12:46

To be fair, Nadine Dorries ate kangaroo testicles live on telly and ended up minister for culture. I don't think standards are what they once were.

Hoppinggreen · 18/10/2022 12:41

That would end the career of any born female politician

MagpiePi · 18/10/2022 12:39

Just wondering how many other women candidates have pictures like this out there.

Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed  vs Eddie Izzard
CousinKrispy · 18/10/2022 11:30

Please no fucking celebrity politicians of any stripe.

TheClogLady · 18/10/2022 10:47

BettyFilous · 17/10/2022 20:56

That’s great news about Rosie.

It is great news.

and also not surprising, because angry Twitter TRAs are not able to influence that much at a CLP level except in small pockets of superwoke areas (Brighton, N London, Central Manchester etc).

The period of mass membership of Corbynites is over, so CLPs are largely back to being run by the same sensible cllrs and party secretaries as ever, perhaps with a few younger/newer members who stuck around.

Shame they’ve lost so many active women (some with decades of membership) in the process.

Around parliament, however, I’d imagine a lot of the younger SPADS and civil servants are still far more IDPOL influenced than everywhere else. This group is also going to be over represented at party conference.
Presumably that’s why it’s so hard to get sensible policy proposals up from CLP through to the National Party.

Rosie being reselected shows both her CLP, and her constituency, appreciate her, and I’m sure that’s a multi faceted appreciation, not on any a single issue.

My own MP has always been a very accessible, community minded sort of person, despite being a parachuted candidate. That she turns up to the opening of an envelope and stays to the end to help with the washing up is indicative of her genuine interest in the people she represents. I don’t always agree with her, but I do appreciate her.
She’s being replaced by a local chap next GE.

That Rosie remains Chair of the Labour Women’s PLP is also something to appreciate. I just wish a few more felt able to stand beside her in a more publicly visible way.

BettyFilous · 17/10/2022 20:56

That’s great news about Rosie.

fromorbit · 17/10/2022 20:39

BettyFilous · 17/10/2022 19:42

I am sure there are plenty of other high profile electorates that need attention by SFW. And there is nothing to stop SFW from raising awareness there, in Sheffield, any time.

If Rosie Duffield steps down in Canterbury and chooses not to run as an independent, KJK could really test whether all of Labour’s voters are A-OK with self-ID.

Rosie has been reselected by her local party and will be standing for Labour in the next election in Canterbury. Should have a very good chance of winning in next election.

KJK if she wants to stand should stand against a prominent TRA supporter MP Labour/Tory/Lib Dem. Or maybe spend the time doing something else. Standing as MP might not be the best tactic for publicity. Holding a series of rallies in different Labour/Tory marginals might be more effective than concentrating on one.

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BettyFilous · 17/10/2022 19:42

I am sure there are plenty of other high profile electorates that need attention by SFW. And there is nothing to stop SFW from raising awareness there, in Sheffield, any time.

If Rosie Duffield steps down in Canterbury and chooses not to run as an independent, KJK could really test whether all of Labour’s voters are A-OK with self-ID.

fromorbit · 17/10/2022 16:24

There will be a chance to get endorsements from local branches etc first. Then there will be an official longlist. [some might not be allowed to stand if they are found to have been breaking party rules or possibly if they are thought to be unsuitable by the committee in some way. ]

Then a short list.

Then more campaigning before voting. Timeline depends on CLP.

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TheClogLady · 17/10/2022 12:38

Thanks for the update!

Looks to be an interesting spread of candidates. Presume with that many it will drop to a shortlist before final votes?

fromorbit · 17/10/2022 12:29

More developments the contest is now up to eight.
Jayne Dunne, a noted local councillor, single mum, with her own business with lots of experience has joined the race. She has the support of two unions GMB and Aslef as well some other councilors. Plenty of accomplishments, some focused on women's issues "backed GMBs ‘Smash the Stigma’ of menopause campaign in Sheffield. Introducing policy to the council to support our workers through menopause. I have also implemented the council’s first ever Period Equality Charter."
Website :
jaynedunn.org/

Dr Rizwana Lala, a local dentist and trade unionist is now standing:
rizwanalala.co.uk/
Dr Chris Carson, local AE Doctor
twitter.com/drchriscarson/status/1580274518161252352

Lefty political commentator and journalist Paul Mason a former Sheffield student is in too. I suspect this is a publicity thing more than anything, but it is a similar pitch to Izzard relying on bigger fame than local credientials. People are joking about the similarity:
www.paulmason.org/vote/

Jayne Dunne is certainly a powerful contender. I think it will most likely be Abitsam or her in the end from what locals are saying online and union support, though Mike Buckley and Abdi Suleiman both seem to have local support too so can't be ruled out. Lots of twitter comments from CLP members saying nice things about Izzard, but then saying they are backing someone else. Next stage is the announcement of the the official longlist by the CLP some of the six may not make next round.

The other candidates are:
abdisuleiman.co.uk/
Mike Buckley
twitter.com/mdbuckley/status/1578397675401220101

Also as mentioned earlier one aspect of the race is that the already selected Green Candidate for Sheffield Central is Alison Teal, who easily won the run off to be voted in as candidate, is like many members of the party Gender Critical. This has caused huge ructions inside the Greens.
bright-green.org/2022/10/12/green-party-members-publicly-refuse-to-campaign-for-sheffield-parliamentary-candidate/

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fromorbit · 16/10/2022 13:33

fromorbit · 14/10/2022 16:29

Unite has endorsed Abtisam Mohamedb to be the the candidate! One of the biggest unions so this is a big win

twitter.com/Abtisam_Mohamed/status/1580908281228185600

Follow up endorsement from the longstanding Sheffield Central CLP secretary. twitter.com/Abtisam_Mohamed/status/1581609793441366016

The one local official that members who go to meetings will tend to know. Rather more useful than Russell Crowe in a local Labour party contest.

Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed  vs Eddie Izzard
Sheffield Central Labour Candidate - Abtisam Mohamed  vs Eddie Izzard
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Adieufattummy · 16/10/2022 06:03

Russell Crowe ffs. Another male misogynist supporting a fellow man.

ItsLateHumpty · 16/10/2022 03:57

Adieufattummy · 12/10/2022 11:05

And another one 🙄

twitter.com/russellcrowe/status/1579945675143680000?cxt=HHwWgMDUtY-OjO0rAAAA

Russell Crowe @ russellcrowe
Fantastic. Go on Eddie. No brighter mind, no bigger heart. What an amazing opportunity for Sheffield.

TheClogLady · 15/10/2022 00:42

That’s great news!

Do you imagine Eddie starting to seethe? I do!

fromorbit · 14/10/2022 16:29

Unite has endorsed Abtisam Mohamedb to be the the candidate! One of the biggest unions so this is a big win

twitter.com/Abtisam_Mohamed/status/1580908281228185600

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BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/10/2022 14:22

Another reason Izzard is perfect.

Any random man in a dress, bad fitting wig and lippy will HAVE to be accepted by the public. They will wear the Trans Cloak of Invisibility. " How dare you ask about my private life, it is a personal matter ". Their " transness " will be INVINCIBLE. The nature of their " transition " will be verboten and unquestionable. The public will know nothing about their past life, and will simply have to accept a " woman ".

By contrast, Izzard has had a highly public profile over decades. He is onl record as switching between " Boy Mode " and " Girl Mode "

He has given countess interviuews and media appearances.

The public can not be forced to accept him as a " woman ", and he will not have an invincibility shield over the nature of his " transition ".

Some people will see a bloke in a dress, and the idea of years of therabpy and dreadful surgery, will be replaced by the knowledge all one has to do is click their heels together.

Izzard will be taken to task on his womenness. He won't have the Jamie Wallis sheild of untouchableness.

His previous interviews and media profile will give enough rope to hang himself.;

IZZARD FOR SHEFFIELD !

He is going to do us all a favour ! See it for what it is and can be.

TheClogLady · 13/10/2022 14:06

I wonder if Izzard has a back up plan for trying again in other seat selections if Sheffield Central doesn’t pan out?

It’s not as if he lives in Sheffield/near to Sheffield/actively wants to live in Sheffield or has a particular interest in the well-being of Sheffield’s residents

(unlike the other candidates)

Parachutees often bounce around a few areas before they get one that sticks (or stand in a no-hope constituency to show willing before being seriously considered for a safe seat elsewhere).

Of course, most seat selections are very low key, barely noticed beyond the CLP meeting. If Eddie loses this one in a very public way, Eddie might not want to risk a second public rejection in quick succession.

Would be interesting if Eddie lost this one and stood elsewhere. Eddie strikes me as the sort of person who turns the coffee table over after losing at Monopoly…

BloodyHellKen · 13/10/2022 13:52

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/10/2022 13:48

I hope that Eddie Izzard is selected.

This is a PERFECT opportunity for SUNSHINE, huge glorious sunshine.

The vast majority of folk in the real world and in real life have simply not been peaked yet.

When I first became aware of this issue and the ideology and terminology and everything else, it actually took a couple of years of wondering, before I got it.

Some may know Izzard vaugley as a Transvestite, with no publicised Transexual surgery, yet here he is as a Transwoman, or actually a Woman, being addressed as She and Her, wearing dresses and using women's toillets.

The man of the Sheffield Omnibus is going to be presented with this, and some folk are going to start pointing out that the Emporer is wearing no clothes.

And who better than an arrogant, narcissistic, entitled luvvie.

IZZARD IS PERFECT !

He will do the work of Lia Thomas and Emily Bridges x 10

That is a VERY good point 😀

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 13/10/2022 13:48

I hope that Eddie Izzard is selected.

This is a PERFECT opportunity for SUNSHINE, huge glorious sunshine.

The vast majority of folk in the real world and in real life have simply not been peaked yet.

When I first became aware of this issue and the ideology and terminology and everything else, it actually took a couple of years of wondering, before I got it.

Some may know Izzard vaugley as a Transvestite, with no publicised Transexual surgery, yet here he is as a Transwoman, or actually a Woman, being addressed as She and Her, wearing dresses and using women's toillets.

The man of the Sheffield Omnibus is going to be presented with this, and some folk are going to start pointing out that the Emporer is wearing no clothes.

And who better than an arrogant, narcissistic, entitled luvvie.

IZZARD IS PERFECT !

He will do the work of Lia Thomas and Emily Bridges x 10

BloodyHellKen · 13/10/2022 12:52

I've only just heard about EI's candidacy in Sheffield. Just when you think the Labour party can't become anymore unappealing they wheel out this wittering self absorbed fool. It's as if they want to repel voters.

Keir FFS, enough of this posturing gender nonsense. Get your party in order, move away from the TRAs and become a good, respected political party again rather than the shambolic embarrassment you are now.

The vast majority of voters you are chasing are NOT interested in gender ideology, let alone believe in it.

Helleofabore · 13/10/2022 10:34

"Let me just assure each and everyone one of you, if this young woman gets the seat, than there is no place for me in Sheffield. Absolutely no way and no reason for us (SFW - Standing for Women) to get involved"

I really hope that Abtisam is selected.

I am sure there are plenty of other high profile electorates that need attention by SFW. And there is nothing to stop SFW from raising awareness there, in Sheffield, any time.

I would never vote for a parachuted in candidate. And no way is ‘going to uni there’ a strong enough connection. Who ever thinks that is a good enough reason is doing a massive disservice to Sheffield and any other electorate where this happens.

Helleofabore · 13/10/2022 10:17

Women should be able to choose what they wear, wherever they live.

Abtisam Mohamed sounds like she should be the right candidate for Sheffield.

However, tell us @SecretTransTwitterEngineer . She has state the above, which echoes KJK making comment about primary school girls and their attire.

Maybe, just maybe this once you will come back and explain just what KJK said that is islamophobic in your eyes and why this statement above is different?

Or really, were you just referring to the comment that really was about never allowing any male to escape scrutiny for their actions regardless of who they are. And why does the nature of that comment rankle so much in that case?

I think you should be able to explain your accusations about a potential candidate for a future election in Sheffield, don’t you? Pretty serious accusations you are making about KJK.