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Solving the transwomen in sports issue

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GeriSignfeld · 11/10/2022 11:44

Out of the transgender arguments, this seems to be one that gets the most mainstream conversation.

Would it not be fairer & easier for athletic transwomen to:

  1. Go off all blockers/hormones (as drugs are not allowed in sport)
  2. Compete in the male division
  3. We remove the male division & call it Open category

This way, women's rights are not being infringed upon & the transwomen are now in an inclusive "Open" category where everyone can compete fairly.

I would really love to put this to a transactivist to see what they would say to this idea & how it could possibly be seen as unfair.

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GeriSignfeld · 11/10/2022 11:58

@PuttingDownRoots Yes, there doesn't seem to be much room with negotiation with this group.

Also it's not all sports really, just those based on physicality.

Eg: The shuffling teams in the recent Winter Olympics was mixed sex.

So there are sports that are inclusive & considered to be equal between men & women already!

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Live4weekend · 11/10/2022 11:52

Many Transwoman want to compete in women's sports. Nothing else is acceptable.

Fairness is not a consideration for many of them.

Female boundaries are not respected and are there to be ignored at their will.

GeriSignfeld · 11/10/2022 11:52

@Beowulfa True! A zealot would insist that anything less than entering the women's category is "literal" violence towards the transwoman's right to existence.

Just thought it would be a pretty simple solution & fair to everyone, as why should one category of person be allowed to take hormones & drugs to compete?

A biological woman would surely be disqualified if they were say, found to be taking testosterone.

So it seems fairer to remove drugs for all!

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PuttingDownRoots · 11/10/2022 11:50

They don't want to. That's what it boils down to.

Beowulfa · 11/10/2022 11:47

GeriSignfeld · 11/10/2022 11:44

Out of the transgender arguments, this seems to be one that gets the most mainstream conversation.

Would it not be fairer & easier for athletic transwomen to:

  1. Go off all blockers/hormones (as drugs are not allowed in sport)
  2. Compete in the male division
  3. We remove the male division & call it Open category

This way, women's rights are not being infringed upon & the transwomen are now in an inclusive "Open" category where everyone can compete fairly.

I would really love to put this to a transactivist to see what they would say to this idea & how it could possibly be seen as unfair.

They won't agree because the zealots insist that transwomen are literally women so must be competing in the womens division. It is much more unfair in their eyds for males to compete with other males than womens sports being trashed.

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