I'm not a woman - which facilities should I use

How would anyone know what your gender is though? They couldn't possibly know from looking at you, given that you could be non binary, transman but not presenting with stereotyped male characteristics, agender etc. They wouldn't even give it a passing thought. What sex people are is a different question.

Thats how i read it maud i said it upthread

so youre not alone in thinking it 😀

How comfortable do you think anyone is in a public toilet? I don't particularly like other people hearing me pee. I definitely don't like them hearing me poo, to the point that I struggle to go anywhere but home, which can actually cause a lot of physical discomfort. I definitely hate people hearing me fart, which can happen even with just peeing. I hate the thought of creating an unpleasant smell. I hate the state that some other people leave a toilet in. I hate the thought of someone thinking someone else's smell is mine. And on and on and on.

Lots of people are uncomfortable in public toilets. You aren't special in that. Stop looking inward so much is my advice. So you feel uncomfortable in the public toilet. So do lots of people. It's defecation not eating a delicious cake with friends. So relieve yourself and get on with your day and don't do anything that makes women and children unsafe in what is a few minutes of physical vulnerability.

I mean this kindly, use the womens loo for your own safety and if you feel uncomfortable enough with this for it to seriously impact your life, find a sympathetic therapist, because the binary world won’t change.

Conversions of public loos to individual cubicles cost a fortune and aren’t always even possible. And we are heading for deep recession where paying for such things won’t be a priority.

I read OP (@Whatiswrongwithmyknee ) as putting this out as a thought experiment/question for people who subscribe to gender ideology.
I think maybe people have misunderstood/ jumped in a bit quick.

I've just re-read the OP and it does read that way to me, but I could be wrong (the "I'm trans" part maybe causing the confusion?)I think OP is asking, if womens loos are for anyone who identifies as a woman, what about women who don't 'identify' as women?
I see how there could be some utility in this when discussing with people who subscribe to this belief- questioning as a form of challenging and all that.

You are a woman. You know you are a woman. So use the ladies toilet. It doesn’t matter how you “identify”, that’s all made up nonsense anyway.

You are a woman because you are am adult human female.

@FrancescaContini absolutely.

The fact people have time to worry about this inconsequential stuff baffles me

You are female
So use the female facilities

I don't know what else you would suggest

Yes gender isn’t an issue in the toilets, it’s just about sex which you acknowledge and accept us female. Nobody will ask you about your gender there.

You use the female toilets because you’re female.

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee In the gentlest possible way, I would suggest you stop worrying about trying to fit a Stonewall category.

You’re a woman so use the toilets for women. If you feel uncomfortable about this then I suggest you look around you at the millions of terrifying problems in the world and try to put a few moments of discomfort aside. Life isn’t always comfortable, is it? HTH.

The thing is, no one else cares what you do or don't identify as.

You have female anatomy, you aren't capable of raping a woman.

If you need a wee in public, go to the ladies. No one will force you into a dress and high heels in the way out!

Fwiw, I have short hair and don't wear make up. I even wear 'mens' jeans (they have great pockets). I don't deliberate about my gender, no one really cares. I'm female, go to the ladies, have a wee, wash your hands and go about your day 😊

I really don’t think gender needs to come into the equation here, or looks. If you’re biologically female then use the female loos. However you identify and however masculine you look.

I also think that 99% of people won't look at you or even begun to speculate about your identity. They won't care.

Just use the ladies as that’s your biological sex. I’m sorry it’s uncomfortable. Most people don’t spend time in the ladies thinking about their gender (I don’t anyway!) it’s just a toilet.

If it makes you very uncomfortable then disabled or the gender neutral ones. Unfortunately or not, life is mostly segregated into your sex atm.

If you don't feel safe in the men's, better to use the female facilities than take up the very limited disabled provision.

Floor to ceiling toilets are not safer. Where is the place people go when they feel unwell if out and about - public toilets. People can faint/collapse in these spaces and if they are fully enclosed may not be spotted. Plus floor to ceiling means predators can potentially push people into them and again not be spotted. Single sex toilets with individual but not fully enclosed cubicles are safest imo.

Of course if ive completely misunderstood apologies all round 😀

And midge is just saying what she thinks those people (who believe that males should use the ladies bogs) would say

But I do find it interesting that as a trans male you do not feel comfortable using the male toilets? Is that for safety reasons or just that sex does matter a lot more than we think (& I do acknowledge that you are GC).

I think some people are missing the point slightly

op is a female….well aware of which bogs she should be using

she would like anyone who thinks that transwomen and male non binary people should be in the ladies bogs to tell whydoesmykneehurt where she should go to the toilet

What’s the issue? You’re a woman.

How old are you? Have you only started wondering about this now? Which toilets have you been using until now? Why do you need other people to help you decide?