I'm not a woman - which facilities should I use

I think proper (fully enclosed cubicles with sink) gender neutral toilets are the fairest and most convenient option for everyone.

That way no one risks harassment or making others uncomfortable. And as an extra bonus, I won’t have to choose between sending my sons into a public bathroom alone or upsetting other women when they get older, and my niece won’t have to see men using urinals whenever she is out with her dad.

I think most people using the loo are thinking about needing the loo and what they’re going to have for dinner. I don’t think they care how you identify as long as you don’t have an actual penis and are using the women’s loo. Surely you thought about this all before self identifying? I mean it’s been in the news A LOT.

Just take a port-a-loo or camping toilet everywhere you go?

If you don’t know which loos to use, could you hold it in till you get home?

Sorry, this is getting completely ridiculous. If you don’t feel comfortable in a men’s loo, or a women’s loo, and there is no other alternative such as an individual or disabled one, stay home.

You have 2 children, so whether you like it or not plenty of people see you as female even if they never lay eyes on you.

Use the ladies toilets.

It doesn't matter if some random person on the street thinks you are female & you feel as if you are not.
Other random people on the street think you are female if they think about you at all as they pass you in the street, or outside the school if you collect your kids, even if you are not going into the ladies toilet at the time.

Any random person is free to think what they want, just as you may be 'misgendering' some other random person who thinks they are other than the sex biology made them.

Luckily for you, their opinions don't really have any effect on your life (do you really care if the woman at the till thinks she is dealing with a woman while she checks out your shopping? Unless you kick up a stink, she'll forget you when she serves the next customer) & you can continue your day no longer needing to use the toilet thinking whatever you want to think about your own self.

You are making problems where none exist.
The rest of the world doesn't place any importance on your own personal self image.
Most of the strangers you see in the street won't even recall you were there, because you don't matter to them.
You were just background to them in their own drama, just as they were background in yours.

You are a biological female. You use the toilets according to your sex. Your gender identity shouldn't come into this.

I presume you think you are Non Binary.... wait until you hit 50 and start getting investigated regarding women's cancers, needing blood transfusions due the amount of blood you lose each month. You can't identify out of being a woman. GROW UP.

I do not ever want people to feel justified in assuming that I align myself with sexist stereotypes just because of the facilities I use.

you’re thinking too much about this! Nobody would think that! It’s just about your sex love.

Gender ideologies do not agree and I want to know which facilities they think I should use.

Well, gender ideologies can't give an opinion, can they??

Never mind what Stonewall say. You are female so use the women's loos. It's all about biological sex. How you identify is literally not important.

You are not male, therefore fine to use the ladies in my book

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee, could I ask a serious question? When you say you're agender, what does that feel like?

Why don't you identify as a woman, especially if you have given birth, which is a quintessentially female thing to do?

Public lavatories were designed to be separate by biological fact. Men can pee standing up, so plenty of urinals works. Women need loos with seats every time, we need sanitary bins, washing facilities etc. We also need a safe space as a refuge from attack or fear of attack, somewhere single sex to adjust a hijab or other clothing. The other reason I don't like fully enclosed "one toilet for all" arrangements like you see in cafes is the number of times I've read reports of hidden cameras being found in them.

This. It's not difficult.

I think DH would request the mens loos be split in two actually: men who behave like filthy animals, and men who have manners and some sense of hygiene. And then we probably need another set for those just intending to do coke.

So we’ve got: female, nice male, nasty male, gender neutral, cocaine loos… and then those all split again by star sign? So 60 sets? Works for me.

Woke Bog 🫢

Good point @bigblueyonder
So there will really need to be 24 loos to accommodate star signs multiplied by however many genders there are now.

I'm agender not trans male

Note what you intend to piss out of then and follow the appropriate sign.

However I'd feel mis gendered if anyone assumed that because I go to the ladies I identify as a woman

Nobody really cares how you identify. You have female genitalia, use the female toilets.

*Coming soon, toilets divided by star sign.

You heard it here first.*

😂😂😂. Seriously some of us do sit in the cusp of changeover so I could be one of two signs depending on the dates listed (star mongrel I suppose).

But I am also pragmatic by nature so would choose the loo with the shortest queue or dates could be provided to clarify🤔

Oh I see what you're trying to do OP
it doesn't quite work though