I'm not a woman - which facilities should I use

It feels like I have a vulva between my legs therefore I am a woman! 🙄

OP:

If you are female but do not identify as a woman, then you ARE a gender ideologist/ideologue.

There is no such thing as toilets which match your gender identity.

There are toilets with urinals for people of the biological sex who are born with penises and can pee standing up, and there are toilets without urinals but with sanitary bins, for people who are born with uteruses, need to sit down to pee, and may also menstruate.

Hope this helps with your dilemma.

What a weird and goady thread. Women don't care about your precious genderfeelz, we care about whether you could rape us. Use the women's loos (but if you see me in there, don't talk to me - you sound tiresome).

Don't like the smell in the gents op?

Man up eh?

If you were born female, use the women's toilets, play in women's sport as long as not doping. I don't care. If you have taken testosterone and have a superficially male appearance- beard, thinning hair, deep voice- you might get questioned because of all the LARPing blokes that have made women's separate spaces effectively unisex.
If you have a superficially male appearance women may well do what they have to do around men on such spaces which is drop their eyes and get out as quickly as possible.
If scaring women validates you, you will be on to a winner. Congratulations.
If you don't have a beard and thinning hair, no woman will give a shit. Sorry/not sorry if that spoils it for you

Women gender? What new woke language mangling convolution is this?

woman defines your sex, ratified by every single cell in your body.

gender is what you choose ratified by whatever/whoever is current on Twitter.

But keep your linguistic paws off the words woman / women please, they are not up for grabs.

Use the ladies surely? You're biologically female and whether you feel uncomfortable in male or female spaces is a problem you need to deal with. The world is not going to change just because you personally don't identify with any gender. You have a vagina, no penis, you use the ladies.

Do you think socially anxious people exist to crowds to stop forming because they're uncomfortable? I'm sure you're resilient enough to use a ladies toilet to have a wee without imploding.

If women start getting snippy about biological women using womens toilets then we can’t push back against the men saying they use womens toilets because they aren’t comfortable using mens toilets.

It needs to be the norm that you use the toilet that equates to your sex, and that you don’t get hassled for doing so.

Of course your taking the piss.

You like most of us here are saying we don't "feel" like a woman we just are by virtue of our biology, your wanting answers from those who don't often come on this board.

You're female. So use the womens

A secondary school near us is putting in thirty individual cubicles - all fully enclosed, lockable, with sinks and sanitary disposal units inside - to be used by all students. This seems a sensible plan to me.

Ugh.. They're all going to get disgusting. They should label half of them for girls, then 10 for boys and 5 for anyone (and I bet those 5 get exclusively used by boys too)

That sounds less like gender identity and more like feminism?

I don’t ‘identify as a woman’ but I accept that woman means ‘adult human female’ so anyone over the age of majority in their country, who is female, is a woman, so I’m a woman.

But that says nothing whatsoever about how I should look, think or behave, about my likes or dislikes, my hopes and dreams.

Woman is a description of sex +age, not a prescription of how to behave.

A woman is simultaneously an adult human female it doesn't dictate any form of identity. If your "identity" makes life sp difficult because you can't even go out incase u need the toilet then its time to re think whether having such an identity is helpful, beneficial or important. I would say someone so paranoid they might be seen as a woman is up there with sowklne so paranoid they think there's an alien around every corner. We shouldn't enable or indulge such things.

Your identity is yours and yours alone. No one else has to be a part of it. So start from there. Start from the point that iiu have a sex akd that sex needs a the facilities in the space designated for that sex. And the rest is nothing important to anyone but you so not something that's gonna come up on anyone else's behalf.

Why are you focusing on definitions? I don't identify as a woman. I AM a woman - an adult human female. If you hate gender norms, then great - smash them. But you're still your biological sex. Pretending you're not doesn't change that fact.

You were born a woman
You've given birth
You ARE a woman!

when did life get so bloody complicated!!!!

"To me it feels like a refusal to let my sexed body define me. What does it feel like to identify as a woman?"

Say what?

It must be exhausting to spend so much mental energy thinking about which toilet to use.

This.

"The term “gender ideology” has no academic or theoretical basis"

Just use the female bogs FFS.

Why doesn't using the mens feel right?

They usually only appear on threads in order to scold us, rather than give constructive advice, I’m afraid.

This thread has been in Active all morning so perhaps some posters are not frequent visitors to this board!

I am absolutely not taking the piss.

Nor are you having one (at least not in public)!! lol!

Whatiswrongwithmyknee

I skim read through. What an interesting thread. I was going to support Rufus on the first page, with a 'yes, of course this is knee's intention' but realised it was already up to page 5. Maybe people didn't recognise you, maybe your identity disguised you.