I'm not a woman - which facilities should I use

To answer your question, it doesn’t “feel” like anything, anymore than being green-eyed or brown-haired or human “feels” like anything. There may be experiences in those groups that chime with me, and other experiences from people within those groups that are wider or narrower than my own and they don’t quite chime with me.

But existences doesn’t have to be labelled and identified like this, with feelings that do or don’t validate today’s (very narrowly defined by a very, very, very small group) labels.

Just live your life, accept facts as reality, and don’t let patriarchal bullshit get in your head.

Oh for gods sake. How ridiculous. You’re female. Use the ladies.

you’ve had children FFS - how can you possibly not be female 🙄

Also, op, a toilet is a functional thing. Use whichever best suits the function you need to perform. There is no need to let your use of the toilets define you or say anything about your identity.

I am absolutely not taking the piss. I am wanting gender ideologists to tell me where I fit in their worldview.

We just all want to take a piss with as little fuss and as quickly as possible without been harassed.

Take your histrionics to the mens and see how you get on.

Hope this doesn't get me deleted - I never post here and I'm not 100% on the rules.

I would join the chorus saying that you are biologically female. Therefore you use the ladies toilets. Because they are sex segregated not gender segregated.

This is my reasoning:
The reason for sex segregation is safety - gender identity of woman does not instantly remove the biologically male factors that create a risk for women. I believe that the majority of men are fine, and not a threat. The same, I'm sure, are the majority of trans women. However - the minority (of all males, not isolating trans women) that present a risk are real and present such a risk that sex segregated facilities are necessary. Males that are a risk and wish to invade women's spaces will use gender ideology to do so in a socially acceptable way. I am not saying that all men who nefariously enter women's spaces are trans - I am saying that predatory males will lie to get access!

As to identity. I am GC. My sex is female. I am biologically XX. My identity is 'grannyachingsshepherdshut' I do not have a gender identity because I believe I have a sex and that, as you say, gender identity is just perpetuation of harmful stereotypes.

Sometimes I wear makeup.
Sometimes I wear mens jumpers.
My male DP always takes the bins out.
I can drive a digger.
I accept men holding doors for me.
I hold doors for men.

Which of those makes me woman? Or man? In my opinion - they're all irrelevant.

I do not consider myself 'trans' (I am aware that stonewall definition probably would, but I also think they wouldn't want me even if I came with a free gold clock...)

I use the ladies loo.

I believe that harmful stereotypes are only destroyed by people breaking them. By people who don't wish to be constrained by stereotypes stepping outside of the polarity of male/female and identifying as agender, it feels that those stereotypes are perpetuated. A reasoning of 'I'm not girly, so that means I can't be a woman, I must be something else because all "women" are girly'.

I genuinely believe that the majority of people don't have a gender identity - they just know what sex they are.

The OP is I think asking a philosophical type question/musing on where Stonewall definitions leave us. They want a response from gender believers hoping to draw them into a debate which proves them wrong/idiots. Am I right OP? Unfortunately wrong place to ask.

The title of your post states "I'm not a woman", your post states you are "biological female". Make your mind up and please get help with your apparent inability to face reality. You are evidently a woman who wants to be "different" with all it's attendant praise and adulation from the rainbow brigade.

Use the women's loos

You are an adult human female = woman.

Anything else is just navel gazing and nonsense.

use the womens toilets

I have no idea what it feels like to identify as a woman because I actually am one.

You'll have to ask a woman with a penis what it feels like to identify as a woman, I'm afraid. And if you could let us know what they say, I'd appreciate it.

If it was just your choice what would you prefer?

I'd recommend the female toilets just because they are probably safer for you and you also wouldn't make anyone feel threatened in there (if you are presenting as or mostly as female). I think a third gender neutral space would be great.

Toilets based on sex not gender identity.
However I see your point I saw a Herschel advert the other day for those who identify as women. I don't identify as a woman so that means I'm not eligible to apply! www.mitalent.ac.uk/The-Herschel-Programme

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Fuck off out of the disabled loo if you aren't disabled. People like me actually need it.

Use whichever you feel comfortable using ?

I've borne two children so am legitimately biologically female.

So what is the issue? Use a toilet in the ladies with a closed door. Or go and pee behind a bush. Or try and pee in a urinal. Up to you...

You've had two children, you are biologically a woman. Regardless of your feelings, your biology has not changed. You are a woman. You either use the females or use disabled as they are gender neutral. I don't really care how it makes you feel tbh.

What's wrong with the men's loo, if the women's loo hurts your feelings?

To me it feels like a refusal to let my sexed body define me. What does it feel like to identify as a woman?

Women don't need to feel like a woman. You just are, or you aren't based on your hormones, anatomy and biological make up. So anything a woman feels, is her feeling like a woman.

Your sexed body does define you. You can be any kind of woman you want - there is no convention you need to follow. Your issue isn't with not identifying as a woman, it's with not being brave enough to fight stereotypical views of a woman. It's like saying I'm going to say I'm an amputee despite having all my limbs because I don't identify with able-ism.

Literally nobody is assuming anything about your identity when they see you going into the women's toilets. They do not care, or give it a moment's headspace.

Stonewall are full of shit.

I don't have a gender identity because I think the whole idea of having an identity which either matches or does not match your genitalia is total nonsense.

I do not "identify as a woman", I simply am one because I am an adult female human. As are you.

I feel like the real problem in situations like this isn't the toilets, it's the discomfort. People are being told that their discomfort means that everything around them needs to change, whereas perhaps it might be better for the discomfort to be addressed (in some form of therapy, if that wasn't clear)..

It isn’t (or shouldn’t be) the role of gender ideologists to determine where you go to the loo. Toilets are based on sex and your sex is female. Toilets have nothing to do with gender. Don’t let a minority group make you uncomfortable.

What has the world come to when we spend so long debating such stuff.

In all seriousness, I suggest getting over yourself.

Why are you asking on the MN feminist board? This isn't where gender ideologists hang out. No feminist defines facility use by 'identity'. You'd be better asking on Twitter. Tag in Mermaids and all the gender ideologists will come flocking. Or tag in OJ.