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Autism and gender dysphoria - whack-a-mole?

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 10/10/2022 14:59

Came upon this:

Fortunato A, Giovanardi G, Innocenzi E, Mirabella M, Caviglia G, Lingiardi V, Speranza AM. Is It Autism? A Critical Commentary on the Co-Occurrence of Gender Dysphoria and Autism Spectrum Disorder. J Homosex. 2022 Jun 7;69(7):1204-1221. doi: 10.1080/00918369.2021.1905385. Epub 2021 Apr 14. PMID: 33852376.

From the abstract:
"We hypothesize that the traits often classified as autistic could be more accurately related to the distress and discomfort evoked by GD."

The journal doesn't look like a journal of psychatry or autism. I can only see the abstract from here pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33852376/ but I think that this bit "to provide, through the description of a clinical case, our reading and a possible interpretation of the correlation of these two conditions" means that they are talking about just one patient.

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FemaleAndLearning · 10/10/2022 16:56

Yet professor Tony Attwood works renowned autism expert says transitioning does not 'cure' autism.

Transgender Trend have produced a really in depth study on autism and gender questioning.
www.transgendertrend.com/autism-gender-identity-introduction/
Even the National Autistic Society hasn't bothered researching but just affirms.
Personally I think autistic children are more susceptible to gender questioning due to their autism but I've been called ableist for suggesting that, implying that I think autistic children are in capable of making decisions. Masking, especially for girls and wanting to fit in are a massive part of their autism. I am constantly telling people it is not cause and affect otherwise all autistic people would be trans. Parents in the community seem to thrive on transing their children and adding another thing to their growing list of problems with their children. The victim parent. I'm mum to one diagnosed autistic daughter and one waiting for assessment.

Hoardasurass · 10/10/2022 16:50

As a asd woman with an asd child this pseudo scscience bullshit really pisses me off you can't "cure " asd it's caused by structural differences in the brain ffs
As for transing the asd away is dangerous eugenics bs

Datun · 10/10/2022 16:46

It's not the first time I've seen organisations claiming that transitioning cures autism.

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 10/10/2022 16:44

I just found the whole paper here. www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2021.1905385

They re-did the diagnostic test after social transition.

"After repeating the evaluation with the same procedure (using the ADOS), the psychiatrist affirmed that a diagnosis of autism no longer existed. Cheerfully, he asked the therapist, “So, is it possible to recover from autism?” It is noteworthy that in the following session, Oscar reported that his parents had finally asked him if he wanted to be called by a male name."

To be fair it is quite nuanced but there's still a lot to make a reader queasy.

And finally there is this: (my emphasis)

  1. Angela/Oscar, now 18, gave his consent to publish this article, read it and approved it.

Well who knows how that will all pan out in the long run.

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KatMcBundleFace · 10/10/2022 15:56

So if there theory is correct "ASD" behaviours would disappear with transition?

Hmmmmmmm....

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