Paul Brand / ITV falsely says LGBAlliance opposes transgender rights

Hey hold on though!!

Mishy is standing up for straight people too!! I mean, those who identify as queer. I think there are plenty of straight people who can qualify for that ‘spicy’ category. So, thanks Mishy! For including us in your activism. You rock!!

I am now comfortable going and marching at Pride under that category. Isn’t that what it is all about?

'They clearly do little for us who are LGB.'

When you say LGB, what do you actually mean?

Stop using words you don't understand. LGB people are perfectly entitled to their own organisation. You and your fellow 'queers' can set up your own organisation. Leave gay and bisexual people alone.

God, this is all so regressive.

Once again, we have posters coming on to accuse LGBA of hate, unable to provide a single actual example of that 'hate' and then accusing us of the same thing.
You can keep throwing mud if you like, but it's no longer sticking and everyone can see where it's coming from.

LGBA would never have had to exist in the first place if it weren't for the "queer" infiltration of the LGB movement.

Like a Trojan horse, the added extra letters became determined to undermine the rights of same-sex attracted people. Their right to live in peace, free from abuse, their right to not be coerced into same-sex relationships.

The "T" element in the forced grouping LGBT are responsible for the abuse and harm of lesbians, in particular young same-sex attracted women who have no choice but to learn about their sexuality through the male dominated lense of social media, riddled with "queer" males who tell them if they are attracted to women they should be attracted to a person with a cock with a skirt on otherwise they're a bigot, terf, and should be punched or raped.

If you're going to defend the behaviour of these "queer" males you need to at least own it. Stop pretending to be the victim.
Lesbians aren't attacking trans people by turning them down. Male born trans people are however actually attacking lesbians for turning them down.
This is the antithesis of the LGB movement. It's an utter disgrace in fact.

The LGBA are desperately needed right now to protect and support LGB people from the relentless attack of gender ideology which is to it's very core anti-LGB.

Mishi seems to be saying that LGBA oppose trans rights because they don't actively campaign for them.

It's that old male entitlement thing rearing its head again isn't it? When you're used to privilege, other people having equality feels like oppression

So Mish- if I want to march against the LGBA and draw attention to all the rights they oppose, well, that placard’s looking a bit blank isn’t it?

Bit “what do we want?”
”We’re not going to tell you!”
”When do we want it?”
”Cheese!”

(Also I’ve kissed a couple of women and dyed my hair all sort of colour so I can slip myself into the Q box can’t I? That’s how it works these days isn’t it? Don’t speak for me Mishy)

even classified as such overseas.

Where overseas and by which organisation?

What do they do for me? Nothing. Hate group pure and simple, even classified as such overseas. Where are they campaigning for LGB and leaving trans alone? Oh.... they dont. So what are they? well... a hate group. Its kinda clear... to take an alternative view.....yeah well you aint queer dear. x

I mean, firstly, are you ok there Mishy?

Secondly, didn’t you know according to some LGBT spokesperson, we are all either homosexual or bisexual. And ‘queer’? That includes spicy straight people. So, again you seem to be missing the point rather spectacularly in trying to tell people they ‘ain’t queer dear’!

Just the usual missing the point hilariousness.

Now, LGB Alliance has been around for such a short time. Only a matter of a few years. And a time period significantly impacted by Covid lock downs too.

Care to list EXACTLY what Stonewall achieved in the first 2 years? 3 years?

Anything?

How strange that you are here complaining about how LGB Alliance have done nothing, whereas they have already had successes and more successes compared to the initial start up of Stonewall. unless you can produce successes no one else has been able to yet when asked, and I look forward to that.

leaving trans alone? You seem to have lost your memory here or is it comprehension.

And ‘trans’? Trans what Mishy? Are you using dehumanising language here? Trans what? Trans people? Issues relating to gender identity? What?

LGB Alliance are quite clear here. They want to leave ‘trans issues’ ‘alone’. But don’t seem to be allowed to.

By the way, LGB Alliance include ‘trans people’ if they want to join. They represent the interests, though, of people who are L, G and B. They leave the ‘spicy straights’ to Stonewall.

Looking forward to that list of successes that Stonewall had in the first years, Mishy.

Its not obvious. Please be clear. Which rights do they oppose? Specifically. Your post is very um.. how to put this nicely...how much wine did you have before posting?

'Kinda obvious', and yet you still haven't managed to mention any.

For those of us too dumb to understand the 'kinda obvious' rights the LGBA 'oppose' please, please clearly state them.

So no-one can even say what rights LGBA "oppose".

I feel genuinely sad that people feel they have to be dishonest to (attempt to) discuss this.

How about you educate yourself here( lgballiance.org.uk/campaigns/ ) about the many things they do for LGB people.

💅

Kinda obvious. They clearly do little for us who are LGB. They just go on and on about the trans. I mean leave those poor people alone. What do they do for me? Nothing. Hate group pure and simple, even classified as such overseas. Where are they campaigning for LGB and leaving trans alone? Oh.... they dont. So what are they? well... a hate group. Its kinda clear... to take an alternative view.....yeah well you aint queer dear. x

Paul Brand used a surrogate.

What's wrong with Brand being a trustee of an LGBT charity...?

X says BLA.
no they didn't.
Yes they did.
Where and when did they say that?
Silence.
I want to know too!
Me too!
Me too!
Stop asking, you're pilng on.

Right...

Asking questions is dogpiling now? Or is the fact more than one person wants to know the same thing problematic now?

Some good ol' mumsnet dogpiling...never gets old...

Wonder if @MishyJDI will ever come back and explain the rights LGBA oppose.

Paul Brand is not to be trusted, his husband is a senior civil servant at Downing Street, who conveniently was never involved in any of the parties. Brand also mysteriously always gets scoops on what goes on with the civil service and gets exclusives such as the dropping of the "conversation therapy" ban, but apparently his such is not his husband. He is also a trustee at an LGBT charity.

I think it’s the right to never hear the word no.

I think it's the right to create, maintain and lobby for safeguarding loopholes and exemptions for trans people.

… Is it the right to have paedophile apologists as trustees for trans youth charities?