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Carolyn Farrow taken to police station

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ScreamingMeMe · 04/10/2022 08:10

Long twitter thread here. She's had her electronic devices seized too, and has been accused of being certain posters on Kiwi Farms and Mumsnet

@BernardBlacksWineIceLolly and @BreakWindandFire sorry to tag you but she's been accused of being you!

We all know who this will be, but as Caroline says, please don't speculate/discuss them.

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1577092705154666496?t=Cv7tRv3YdqIogpXT_MSwZQ&s=19

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SnapeAlways · 05/10/2022 15:38

Double post, the police have said they seized my devices to prove or disprove the allegation.

At interview they were unable to provide me with any evidence that I was responsible for the cartoon. They just presented it as an exhibit to me which had been provided to them by the complainant.

The polive had seemingly been presented with a number of well ordered and correctly numbered exhibits. It was almost as though they had been handed a pre-written case that was good to go, which had saved them the trouble of any investigative work. Gosh yes, this does look terrible doesn’t it, right we’ll go and bring her in.

Dreikanter · 05/10/2022 15:34

Dreikanter · 05/10/2022 15:24

That's the one I would imagine, posted under a typical Farmers anonymous user name.

In fact, looking back it was on June 18th that CF was being accused on Twitter as being the anonymous poster (in rather an obscure way).

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:33

Sorry, what’s the back story to KF?

i am scared to Google, especially if people are posting nasty things about the holocaust. Why even think that’s acceptable?

SnapeAlways · 05/10/2022 15:32

The speculation is correct.

I did not post that cartoon and in fact the police had to explain to me who one of the people was because I didn’t recognise him.

Having told me the name of the person in the cartoon, the police then asked me who he was and how I knew him.

nauticant · 05/10/2022 15:32

What evidence was there for the police to arrest her then based on nothing to suggest it was her?

From what's been reported, the Police arrested Caroline Farrow to seize devices under her control in the hope of finding some evidence that she was responsible for the posting of the image on Kiwi Farms. Whether the hope of the Police is based on something substantive or simply on the say-so of a particular individual who is active in reporting women to Police forces around the UK is unclear.

Dreikanter · 05/10/2022 15:24

nauticant · 05/10/2022 15:19

There's been speculation that it is a very nasty Holocaust-themed image posted on Kiwi Farms by a user there where there's no proof that the user responsible was Caroline Farrow.

That's the one I would imagine, posted under a typical Farmers anonymous user name.

Wanderingowl · 05/10/2022 15:22

MargaritaPie · 05/10/2022 12:39

She was on kiwifarms? That isn't going to do well for her in court.

You know the people who cheered on the brief demise of KF wanted Mumsnet to be next. Because mumsnet is viewed in the same light as KF. And guess who has a mumsnet account? You!!!!!!!!!!!

You must be terrified!

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:21

nauticant · 05/10/2022 15:19

There's been speculation that it is a very nasty Holocaust-themed image posted on Kiwi Farms by a user there where there's no proof that the user responsible was Caroline Farrow.

Wow horrible for that ti have been posted.

What evidence was there for the police to arrest her then based on nothing to suggest it was her?

ComebackQueen · 05/10/2022 15:20

Found this board after it was mentioned on another thread.

I actually saw this story on some online newspaper yesterday.

Many of the comments were supportive but I did wonder, those being quite snarky about her arrest ‘justified because she’s a transphobe’ - are they paid for shills or bots?

Unless you have some odd perversions, what sane person can defend this agenda?

nauticant · 05/10/2022 15:19

There's been speculation that it is a very nasty Holocaust-themed image posted on Kiwi Farms by a user there where there's no proof that the user responsible was Caroline Farrow.

TheClogLady · 05/10/2022 15:17

ScreamingMeMe · 05/10/2022 14:24

It's weird isn't it? You'd think left wing papers would be all over civil liberty and freedom of speech issues.

I suspect we are in the middle of one of those gradual political switcharoos, as seen between the Democrats and Republicans?

www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

Dreikanter · 05/10/2022 15:12

RoyalCorgi · 05/10/2022 14:57

Can someone describe the offending image to me - if you've worked out what it is? I can't imagine what would be so awful that it warrants this level of police attention.

One involved a photoshopped pic of the Queen and some corgis.

I can guess at another one, which was a pretty offensive cartoon.

RoyalCorgi · 05/10/2022 14:57

Can someone describe the offending image to me - if you've worked out what it is? I can't imagine what would be so awful that it warrants this level of police attention.

Charley50 · 05/10/2022 14:48

Haven't read the whole thread but she should sue. The police aren't her malicious reporter's private force.

HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 14:28
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RoyalCorgi · 05/10/2022 14:26

WahineToa · 05/10/2022 12:51

Interesting that somehow having an account on kiwi farms means you’ll look bad in court. Twitter allow pedophiles to discuss their ‘attractions’. I think that’s disgusting and all of their T & C’s I’ve read about ‘minor attracted persons’ makes me think holding a twitter account should make someone look bad anywhere.

Weird old world where having an account on Kiwi Farms is apparently a criminal offence but if you advocate sex with children you get offered an academic job at the LSE.

ScreamingMeMe · 05/10/2022 14:24

HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 14:22

Still find it so strange that the fail has so often been the only paper addressing stuff like this.

It's weird isn't it? You'd think left wing papers would be all over civil liberty and freedom of speech issues.

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HatThatWearsYou · 05/10/2022 14:22

Still find it so strange that the fail has so often been the only paper addressing stuff like this.

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AryaStarkWolf · 05/10/2022 14:13

nothingcomestonothing · 05/10/2022 12:14

How many reports have been made that did not end in this action

In July I reported an adult male who asked for and recieved nude photos of a 13 year old girl. The police haven't got round to questioning him or looking at his tech yet. Maybe if I'd said he'd said hurty words on the internet they'd have treated him like they treated Caroline Farrow?

Why is that not even surprising? It shows exactly how is top of the food chain though doesn't. Men as always

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/10/2022 13:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/10/2022 13:26

Interesting article about Kate Scottow's successful appeal of her conviction which should have created case law around this issue. Im sure we can see this is relevant on a number of levels.

publicdefenderservice.org.uk/news/is-posting-annoying-tweets-a-criminal-offence-the-impact-of-r-v-scottow/

That article is very helpful and must surely make this harassment of Caroline all the more unreasonable on the part of the police

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/10/2022 13:55

Oh, bollox !

Replied wrong quote (how? just how?)

It should have been the the black Books video link.

But while I'm on- one of the things I think has lead to the state of our police force is that experien=ced officers who know how to handle people and de-escalate potentially dangerous situations are retiring in droves because of ridiculous laws and being buried iii paperwork. (And who can blame them?)

The result it that there is no-one to model appropriate behaviour to all the young bloods (of both sexes) and teach them how to keep things calm.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/10/2022 13:52

Justasmallgless · 05/10/2022 08:24

Hat, I too am a serving police officer of a similar age and I can totally understand why you would feel like this.
I'm actually angry on your behalf.

I imagine they have potentially thought "best not stop this lone woman walking her dog as she might be worried by that" rather than " we will provide some reassurance to Thai lone woman walking her dog"

We are doing listening circles in our force about experiences of women inside the force and that's still bad enough. Unfortunately we have a huge number of under 30 new recruits due to the cuts and then recruitment so most of those patrolling have under 3-5 years service.

I am really sorry you had this experience and would urge you to email in.
It's not a complaint, it's explaining how it makes us as women feel vulnerable

So infuriated by the CF case I can't post anything

LOL!!! (ie)

I'll have to dig the DVDs out again - what a joy that programme is.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/10/2022 13:26

Interesting article about Kate Scottow's successful appeal of her conviction which should have created case law around this issue. Im sure we can see this is relevant on a number of levels.

publicdefenderservice.org.uk/news/is-posting-annoying-tweets-a-criminal-offence-the-impact-of-r-v-scottow/

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