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Carolyn Farrow taken to police station

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ScreamingMeMe · 04/10/2022 08:10

Long twitter thread here. She's had her electronic devices seized too, and has been accused of being certain posters on Kiwi Farms and Mumsnet

@BernardBlacksWineIceLolly and @BreakWindandFire sorry to tag you but she's been accused of being you!

We all know who this will be, but as Caroline says, please don't speculate/discuss them.

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1577092705154666496?t=Cv7tRv3YdqIogpXT_MSwZQ&s=19

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ScreamingMeMe · 04/10/2022 20:47

ScaryFaces · 04/10/2022 20:23

It's stuff she allegedly posted on KiwiFarms, a far right troll site recently in the news for a swatting incident. The site is associated with doxxing, harassment, suicides and terrorism. Farrow admits to having been a poster there though she denies making the specific posts she's been accused of. It's a deeply unsavoury and dangerous site and she's unlikely to be the only kiwi farms user police are keeping an eye on.

The site is accused of such things, not associated with. To be associated with, there would need to be some actual proof.

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TheBiologyStupid · 04/10/2022 20:35

Fidgetbottom · 04/10/2022 08:39

No… I am Caroline Farrow.

Ditto!

OverArmour · 04/10/2022 20:35

So many times when reading accounts of true crime police investigations into, often eventually, convicted murderers and rapists, there are accounts of how the police couldn’t access phone, bank or computer details due to the high bar needed - even when doing so might help prevent further attacks occurring. I’ve often felt and understood their frustration.

But here, for this, they seem to have had no trouble at all?

Cailleach1 · 04/10/2022 20:25

They didn't pull any punches on the term for parting a male child from his genitals in that article!

Treaclemine · 04/10/2022 20:24

Just watched, and had a thought. They've taken the priest's work computer. It will have sensitive material about parishoners on it. Can they get the local Bishop or similar to pull strings to get at least that back.

ScaryFaces · 04/10/2022 20:23

2Rebecca · 04/10/2022 19:01

I thought it was stuff she was alleged to have said years ago. Why go round now? What evidence was provided to suggest it was her? Why is it suddenly really hurtful when no-one is looking at comments from years ago except the police and the complainant with too much time on their hands who needs to get a job?
Is it a fishing expedition to try and found out who did send those comments and when Caroline is cleared they will do a FOA to try and find who it was using the police to do the work for them?
It is hugely disproportionate. I am disgusted our laws allow this.
Lots of people dislike Toby Young but I hope the Free Speech association are on to this

It's stuff she allegedly posted on KiwiFarms, a far right troll site recently in the news for a swatting incident. The site is associated with doxxing, harassment, suicides and terrorism. Farrow admits to having been a poster there though she denies making the specific posts she's been accused of. It's a deeply unsavoury and dangerous site and she's unlikely to be the only kiwi farms user police are keeping an eye on.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 04/10/2022 20:18

KittenKong · 04/10/2022 18:26

yup this.

They showed their true colours through the advice given by the Met to scared women in the wake of the Sarah Everard tragedy. And then their ridiculously heavy-handed response to her vigil.

This eroded what faith I had in the police previously. Given any choice in the matter they are the last people I'd want to call upon for help.

oakleaffy · 04/10/2022 20:12

All this fuss because a woman called someone “ Him”?
Why even waste police time on that!
Go solve some real crimes.

Womblesgash · 04/10/2022 20:11

ScreamingMeMe

making a comparison like this is too wide.

Many complaints are dealt with by a force’s Professional Standards Department who are Police Officers themselves but they certainly don’t show any favourable treatment towards other Officers and will not hold back in pursuing them.

Hundreds of complaints without misconduct action being taken does not necessarily prove that there is something going wrong or something corrupt happening.

One significant reason why many complaints don’t go anywhere these days is because the introduction of Body Worn Cameras which Officers wear throughout incidents can easily disprove what someone is accusing them of.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 04/10/2022 20:11

the comment above relates to a previous occasion when the police were used to harass Caroline Farrow

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 04/10/2022 20:08

crikey, the mail aren't pulling any punches are they?

The four-month Surrey Police investigation into Mrs Farrow [over allegations she had used the wrong pronoun to describe a transgender woman], which prompted much controversy when made public, was hastily dropped as it hurtled towards full-blown fiasco.

Chrysanthemum5 · 04/10/2022 20:02

It's in the mail now and the photographs are incredible www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11279745/Devout-Catholic-mother-arrested-series-malicious-posts-uploaded-chat-forum-KiwiFarms.html

FortunesFavour · 04/10/2022 19:57

I am so very angry about this. I hope you sue the misogynistic twerps Caroline. I’d be happy to contribute to your fighting fund.

Madcats · 04/10/2022 19:55

This is mad, but hopefully it is so mad that it will soon stop!

Stay strong.

Iliveonahill · 04/10/2022 19:50

OhMammaMia · 04/10/2022 18:17

I fully agree with this ^

Yes I agree.

nauticant · 04/10/2022 19:42

twitter.com/MarkSteynOnline/status/1577312268051746821

Tonight @CF_Farrow joins Mark live on @GBNEWS at 8pm British Summer Time to tell her story...

ScreamingMeMe · 04/10/2022 19:39

Oh gosh what a surprise.

No misconduct action against Surrey police officers despite hundreds of complaints

www.farnhamherald.com/news/no-misconduct-action-against-surrey-police-officers-despite-hundreds-of-complaints-550259

Surrey Police's backlog of child sex offences 'significant'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-49350013

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ScreamingMeMe · 04/10/2022 19:36

Statement from Surrey Police

www.surrey.police.uk/news/surrey/news/2022/10/statement-following-allegations-of-malicious-communications-and-harassment/

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Cailleach1 · 04/10/2022 19:30

beastlyslumber · 04/10/2022 18:41

That is bollocks. No mention that they sprung into action on the say so of some bloke, with no evidence and went mob-handed to force themselves into a woman's home.

Arseholes.

Is there a point where there is such a disproportionate and unreasonable collusion on behalf of the police in hounding women, that the police become an accessory to harassment? Or are guilty of jointly harassing someone?

I'm not referring to this particular case; just in general as police do seem to disproportionately come down like a juggernaut on women for even voicing reality. Whereas rapists in their area... tumbleweed.

ImherewithBoudica · 04/10/2022 19:25

Open up 'terfisaslur' and you find multiple, myriad posts so explicitly violent and murderous that they're quite sickening to read. Pages and pages and pages of them. Graphic descriptions of desired rape and murder.

Not so much as a tweet from the police about those.

A woman disses a male however?

See how they run.

WahineToa · 04/10/2022 19:21

This is awful. I used to be on these boards years ago so I feel horrified reading this.

I just have to wonder how the heck this is legal? Surely someone can be done about the overhanded response to the report and about the harassment and vexatiousness of the person responsible? I’d love any legal perspectives.

MoltenLasagne · 04/10/2022 19:17

I think it is very clear here that the process is the punishment. Its intended to have a chilling effect both on Caroline, and more broadly on women who become aware of what happened to her.

I have a few questions for any more legally minded posters...

  1. The police said this was about "allegations of malicious communications (sending of indecent, grossly offensive messages, threats, or information) and harassment."

My understanding was that this had to be targeted harassment e.g. a text, email, letter, to the complainant, however clearly the supposed offences are mass posts on a platform like MN / KF. How can such posts be captured under this legislation?

  1. What reasonable suspicion (or whatever the terminology is) do police have to have that such posts were made by the accused? Would they have not done some cursory checks such as ip address?
  1. The memes sound like they do not cross the bounds of illegality into grossly offensive- is there an amplication factor applied to some protected characteristics, and is it being applied correctly?
MoltenLasagne · 04/10/2022 19:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2022 19:05

I thought it was stuff she was alleged to have said years ago.

Where did you read this, @2Rebecca?

The poster names that were from MN last posted anything 3 years ago according to advanced search.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/10/2022 19:05

I thought it was stuff she was alleged to have said years ago.

Where did you read this, @2Rebecca?

IcakethereforeIam · 04/10/2022 19:04

Just occurred to me some of the stuff reported seems to have been on MN. Presumably, the complainant has been visiting. Is their life so empty, such a howling void, they have nothing better to do than hate scroll a parenting website?

I find MN hugely entertaining, but I like the voices of many of the vipers. even you @BernardBlacksWineIcelolly (I don't recognise the other name).

Surrey getting their arses handed to them in the twitter comments. Everyone saying the things I would say if I were tempted onto the devil's app.

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