Carolyn Farrow taken to police station

She was on kiwifarms? That isn't going to do well for her in court.

If it’s the image I’ve seen it’s pretty gross. I don’t know if it would cross the line into “hate speech”, it’s certainly a very offensive analogy on many levels.

But three forces investigating it for months??? Excuse me? How in the name of Cthulhu can anyone justify that use of resources when weighed against the things that don’t get investigated?

kiwi farms is very much back, calling each other gay as a term of abuse and being generally objectionable

and I consider that to be a good thing

This is ludicrous. Why aren't they going after pornhub? That's where the truly gross and indecent images are. Oh wait, it's a UK law, and pornhub isn't hosted in the UK. Just like kiwifarms isnt and wasn't in June (and doesn't even exist anymore of course).

jesus fucking christ

this is absolutely indefensible

This is all so depressing and absolutely frightening. My wonderful DC is very much TWAW out of kindness and support for teen transgender friends. This concerning but also understandable when even my adult and intelligent colleagues hold the same views. The deeply concerning safeguarding and what seems to feel is explicit misogyny happening in wider circles as illustrated by this case is lost on them. Feels as though the tactic of shutting debate (vis Observer’s article on the latest Labour conference) has worked and is causing great harm.

How many reports have been made that did not end in this action

In July I reported an adult male who asked for and recieved nude photos of a 13 year old girl. The police haven't got round to questioning him or looking at his tech yet. Maybe if I'd said he'd said hurty words on the internet they'd have treated him like they treated Caroline Farrow?

So does anyone actually know the details of what she was arrested for?

I've shared this on another thread, but an incident where an elderly man was mugged, left semi conscious and bleeding on the pavement, picked up and cared for by neighbours. Who were furious that three days later no police could be spared to come round.

Woman being rude to a male though? Three cops following months of careful research.

What did all that cost?
What calls went unanswered that day so those man hours could be spent on this?
How many reports have been made that did not end in this action and what man hours/costs have been spent investigating all this?

Oh no that bobble hat photo 🤮 Stop making me think horrible things 😄

@stillvicarinatutu Go to Glinner's sub stack from yesterday and you will find the details on his post about Surrey Police

I hope no one takes that seriously btw, I really was just being utterly silly because the world has gone mad and I feel that if I don't poke a bit of fun and laugh I'll go totally daft.

I'll stick the kettle on, I'm expecting Surry police at my door any minute

I know this is ridiculous because I can't actually do this as I'm sure most of us can't, but it sort of makes me feel a little rebellious like maybe there should be a suffragette style movement where something totally innocuous gets a large group of women arrested at the same time.

This is a terrible idea and I am certainly not inciting anyone to do anything unlawful or likely to cause them to be arrested even on spurious claims. I'm just feeling a bit... I don't even know what the word is, overtired and silly probably.

So I don’t know if I can link to it but according to [the usual suspect] three different forces have been investigating the same image posted on Kiwi Farms for months? At his instigation obviously. I think it’s the same image that they interrogated Caroline about but it’s all terribly murky.

After learning this I read the comment about the cops not sending out someone for a burglary in progress with kids in the house and I honestly can’t process it all. I think I’m a hairs’ breadth from throwing a tantrum. How is this being allowed to happen?

And I have apologised. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Mr Willgoss, a parish councillor for Surrey Heath who also works in garden maintenance, said the officers told him he may have committed a public order offence and should attend an interview to explain his actions. He said he was told if he did not attend he may be arrested over the image.

what was the image? A picture of 2 trans rights activists holding signs that had previously said ‘trans rights are human rights’ but had been photoshopped to say ‘terfs were right all along’ and ‘trans rights are very, very boring’

some people will always make vexatious complaints. Humans are complicated and weird

getting caught up in that shows shit judgement on the part of Surrey Police and a distinct lack of understanding of what’s important to the public. The police do after all police by public consent.

Wow. This is ridiculous and could be any one of us.

IANAL so I may be completely incorrect here, but is the position that police need a warrant to enter and search premises if there is a possibility or likelihood of no arrest being made at the premises during the search, but that they don’t need a warrant if the intention of the visit is to arrest a person at the premises? I.e. in the first it’s the property that’s of interest, in the second it’s a specific person?

HatThatWearsYou I just wanted to say that I fully support your posts and that stillvicarinatutu has been totally out of order on this thread. At best incredibly naive, possibly a bit gaslighty.

I had an incident with the police a few years ago, which I immediately started a thread about on here. It was probably more than 10 years ago and under my previous username. I too am a middle aged, middle class white woman and the police officer changed my attitude to the police in a matter of 30 seconds. He was in his patrol car, on duty and decided to have a power trip to boost his fragile ego. I had done nothing wrong. He was the very stereotype of an abusive, misogynistic man.

What you describe was worse and I don't see how anyone would try to explain away what those police officers were doing to you. They were clearly trying to intimidate you and get their jollies. No one should tell you that what you saw wasn't what actually happened. It's disgraceful.

So you just wanted to tell the thread about your dislike of Caroline Farrow?

Very constructive 👍

Its starting isn't it? Its not just women now but a young man talking outside a political conference (I assume due to the large police presence).

Why were there 3 other police officers watching the first officer telling off the man? Were they all going to rugby tackle him to the ground if he repeated the naughty word?

And what does a blue jacket signify? I see him wearing the proper police helmet so he's not security.

I have a bar. Haha try getting through that!

Don't this particular vexatious litigant's claims all have to go through the same judge now, because they are so prolific?

Yes, for High Court civil actions.

I’m sure they’ll be aware of all this going off.

I’m sure there is a crib sheet. I didn’t think you had to let them in.

A bit like vampires - they can’t come in (without a warrant) unless you invite them.