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Norwich City Council votes TWAW

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Sazzasez · 02/10/2022 22:42

On 29th September, Norwich City Council passed a motion that “trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are non-binary”.

Proposed by Green Councillor Alex Catt, voted unanimously by Labour and Green Councillors, though a clause that would give transgender people priority in housing was defeated by Labour votes.

Alex Catt announced the vote in a tweet ending with the words “transphobic extremists [sic] are not welcome in Norwich”.

Norwich Women’s Rights Group on Twitter posted queries: how will it affect women-only swimming sessions at the council sports centres, especially for minority women; what about hostels for homeless women; will disabled women be able to specify intimate care by female carers, and so on.

A freedom of information request has already been submitted to find out what Equality Impact Assessment has been done.

Surprisingly, the Norwich Evening News, which has previously repeated unchallenged everything Cllr Catt tells them, actually reported that there have been some queries.

www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/city-councils-transgender-motion-prompts-criticism-9303970

Norwich City Council votes TWAW
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TheBiologyStupid · 04/10/2022 23:29

Athenajm80 · 03/10/2022 23:30

@RoyalCorgi Your comment about the world being flat made me think of the book by Simon Edge The End of the World is Flat smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B098KS95KX/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_RJ6MKS7HF08P10KGWMQB

For those who haven't read it, it sums up all this BS quite nicely. He is a great chap.

(I wasn't bothered about me being identified by my last comment so a tad confused as to why MN deleted it)

An excellent book!

viques · 04/10/2022 23:05

Gosh, I hope the next step is Norwich council supplied free sanitary items for transwomen , free condoms for transmen and erm, ( thinks quickly) , free unicorn wings for non binary peeps.

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Sazzasez · 04/10/2022 22:58

TheBiologyStupid · 03/10/2022 20:03

Yes, Councillor Catt has form: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/norwich-confidential

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He does.

Interesting article: Catt claims the stickers have razor blades behind them, but his own photos show they don’t.

He also encourages readers to break the law on fly posting by putting up stickers that he approves of.

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SwanRot · 04/10/2022 10:11

'Transphobic extremists aren't welcome in Norwich!'

Oh, OK. I'll stop paying my Council Tax to you then. And you can find someone else to teach your fucking feral offspring.

Thanks for the Get-Out-of-Inbred-Jail Card!

Athenajm80 · 03/10/2022 23:30

@RoyalCorgi Your comment about the world being flat made me think of the book by Simon Edge The End of the World is Flat smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B098KS95KX/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_RJ6MKS7HF08P10KGWMQB

For those who haven't read it, it sums up all this BS quite nicely. He is a great chap.

(I wasn't bothered about me being identified by my last comment so a tad confused as to why MN deleted it)

Cuck00soup · 03/10/2022 20:44

BBC Look East reported earlier that they have a £60 million gap in their budget planning.

Obviously confirming that TW are real women is the priority though.

TheBiologyStupid · 03/10/2022 20:03

Sazzasez · 03/10/2022 08:06

Cllr Catt was elected saying his main priority was climate.
His every public pronouncement has been about transgender people.

Yes, Councillor Catt has form: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/norwich-confidential

TheBiologyStupid · 03/10/2022 19:59

KittenKong · 03/10/2022 07:58

Did they actually define ‘trans woman’ (funny their didn’t say and TMAM isn’t it?)?

haven’t they got any real work to do?

They did, along with "and Non-Binary people are Non-Binary". They're equal opportunities idiots (unless you're female, of course).

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Sazzasez · 03/10/2022 19:22

pattihews · 03/10/2022 09:29

I'm interested on the bloke on the right-hand side who isn't holding the flag and appears to have his hands in his pockets. Is that resistance I see? Disbelief?

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Cllr Gary Champion, I believe. Green Party & all for it.

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KittenKong · 03/10/2022 14:16

Arf

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 03/10/2022 13:38

"men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri."

Nice to see Norwich City Council keeping up with the 1980s.

HermioneKipper · 03/10/2022 13:33

bellinisurge · 03/10/2022 09:05

I must have missed the bit that exempted Norwich from the Equality Act

Yes hope they’re sued!

Imnobody4 · 03/10/2022 10:49

It wasn't long ago when there was a judicial review on holding prayers in council meetings. TWAW is a belief and can't be imposed on others. Stupid absurd posturing. Think it's time to give the Raving Monster Looney Party a chance.

RoyalCorgi · 03/10/2022 09:46

I think this stuff will go into future psychology textbooks - and possibly history books - as an example of how far groupthink can drive people to idiocy. When councils pass motions, it's usually to carry out an action, eg spend more money on libraries, or introduce parking restrictions in the high street. Norwich city council have decided to pass a motion that contradicts a matter of fact. It's as if they'd decided to pass a motion that says "This council believes the earth is flat" or "This council believes that Virgoans are more temperamental than Scorpions." What do they hope to achieve, other than making complete fools of themselves?

pattihews · 03/10/2022 09:29

picklemewalnuts · 03/10/2022 08:14

There are a lot of tilty heads in that photo. Is that normal? It looks odd!

I'm interested on the bloke on the right-hand side who isn't holding the flag and appears to have his hands in his pockets. Is that resistance I see? Disbelief?

bellinisurge · 03/10/2022 09:05

I must have missed the bit that exempted Norwich from the Equality Act

RoyalCorgi · 03/10/2022 08:49

“trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary people are non-binary”.

I used to think that "Trans women are women and trans men are men" was the most moronic slogan ever coined. But I had reckoned without the addition of "non-binary people are non-binary" which takes the moronicity to new depths.

Hepwo · 03/10/2022 08:17

The loony left at it again!

aweegc · 03/10/2022 08:16

If:
NB = NB
Then why doesn't

TW = TW
TM = TM

And why are they excluding all the other gender identities? Why are they enforcing a gender binary (man/woman) with NB outside it?

These people break my brain. If you actually believe that biological sex doesn't exist and you're being wokely kind, you can't simply ignore the other genders. But if you believe that bio sex does exist (which you have to if you can even state TW or TM because it's sex based) then WTF is NB?

picklemewalnuts · 03/10/2022 08:14

There are a lot of tilty heads in that photo. Is that normal? It looks odd!

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Sazzasez · 03/10/2022 08:06

Cllr Catt was elected saying his main priority was climate.
His every public pronouncement has been about transgender people.

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KittenKong · 03/10/2022 07:58

Did they actually define ‘trans woman’ (funny their didn’t say and TMAM isn’t it?)?

haven’t they got any real work to do?

Whatwouldscullydo · 03/10/2022 06:46

What do they define as extremists. So sick of this. When did it become no longer OK to just not agree but keep quiet. When did it become no longer OK to just not give a shit and not say anything.

When did it become compulsory to
to have to literally sacrifice your bodies , your minds and risk amd your lives in some Cases on order to prove your allyship amd surrender your reality at the alter if ideology in full view of enough people to count.

Its bonkers.

rabbitwoman · 03/10/2022 06:20

'transphobic extremists aren't welcome in Norwich!'

I should hope that goes without saying, they should not be welcome anywhere.

But we are not extremists, we are centralises. We think trans people should be treated with respect and dignity and have rights and protections in law,, but that you cannot change sex, and gender should not supercede sex in policy and law where sex matters

pattihews · 03/10/2022 01:20

I'll take your word for it, but I've heard a different story from women's groups trying to have a civilised conversation with anyone with influence. Lovely kind sweet Mark Drakeford has absolutely refused to sit down with concerned women. Lu Thomas and co are still the WG's go-to people for anything LGB and TQ+.