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Women's Rally in Edinburgh, Thurs, 6th Oct

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PogueMahoneBoris · 02/10/2022 18:03

There is going to be a women's rally outside of Holyrood (Scottish Parliament) on Thursday 6th October. Gather for 11.15am for a 11.30 start. It's the one delayed from Sept 15th.

The focus of the rally (and the timing, during what is normally First Minister's Questions) is the Gender Recognition Reform Bill that is currently going through the Scottish Parliament and the impact on Scottish women's rights.

The following speakers will be there so do come along and listen, mingle, network and then come for a drink :

Cllr Alison Dowling
Elaine Miller ("fanny physio", Gusset Grips)
Lisa Mackenzie (Murray Blackburn Mackenzie)
Rhona Hotchkiss (LGB Alliance)
Helen Joyce (Sex Matters)
Maya Forstater (Sex Matters)
Johann Lamont (retired Labour MSP)
Caroline McAllister (Scottish Feminist Network)
Kate Coleman (Keep Prisons Single Sex)

The rally is organised by For Women Scotland and all are welcome to attend.
If you are coming from out of town, or even from within Edinburgh, and would appreciate some company walking into the rally (which might sound a bit intimidating if you haven't been to one before) then get in touch as there will be a couple of meeting places organised.
Looking forward to seeing you there.

Women's Rally in Edinburgh, Thurs, 6th Oct
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stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/10/2022 09:24

Also sent my emails and I am grateful to FWS for the draft. They are amazing

Waitwhat23 · 09/10/2022 10:21

I've just done my email. I wasn't even aware of the existence of the writetothem website before I came onto FWR - it's brilliant and so easy to use.

I've got a couple of MSP's who reply in a positive way, one or two who reply to basically say 'progressive and TWAW' and a few who simply ignore my email.

HopRockers · 09/10/2022 09:54

Igneococcus · 09/10/2022 08:48

There was a legal challenge against the Named Person law @SerotinaPickeler but I can't remember any details of it now, like who or what organisation contested it.

I think the details will be here
no2np.org/has-the-named-person-scheme-really-been-scrapped-and-where-do-we-go-from-here/

HopRockers · 09/10/2022 09:53

BetsyM00 · 09/10/2022 02:38

Think that was a mistake, it was Michael Marra from Labour who came outside.

That makes far more sense!

Ahh well it was a nice moment of thinking he'd grown a backbone.

seXX · 09/10/2022 09:30

Sorry, don't think last link worked:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=liuWfxfmPDg

seXX · 09/10/2022 09:00

Apologies if this has already been posted but here's a video with all the speeches

Igneococcus · 09/10/2022 08:48

There was a legal challenge against the Named Person law @SerotinaPickeler but I can't remember any details of it now, like who or what organisation contested it.

Selkiesarereal · 09/10/2022 08:45

This is all so depressing as it it is so predictable that the bill will go through despite the consultations, the protests, the letter writing, they just don’t care and I think that a lot of their voters will get a shock once the full implications of the SNP’s “progressive “ politics are realised.

SerotinaPickeler · 09/10/2022 08:15

Igneococcus · 09/10/2022 07:02

Comment in the Sunday Times Scotland today by Euan McColm about GRA reform, the protest and Mermaids:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cea368fa-4730-11ed-a9bf-432f673b24aa?shareToken=096b793526d177c690c01eec81473b22

Very interesting that Euan McColm suggests that legal action by those who believe self ID is not the way to proceed is likely to halt (delay) progress of the Bill. Does anyone know what this is likely to be and will there be a crowdfunder?

Not being in Scotland is frustrating because unsure of what to do to help (apart from backing FWS). Watching out for this opportunity.

guinnessguzzler · 09/10/2022 07:31

Glad to see Daniel Johnson was there, always thought he was a good 'un and he will continue to have my vote despite some of his colleagues' best efforts.

Well done to all who took part and made it happen.

Igneococcus · 09/10/2022 07:02

Comment in the Sunday Times Scotland today by Euan McColm about GRA reform, the protest and Mermaids:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cea368fa-4730-11ed-a9bf-432f673b24aa?shareToken=096b793526d177c690c01eec81473b22

BetsyM00 · 09/10/2022 02:38

Think that was a mistake, it was Michael Marra from Labour who came outside.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/10/2022 00:44

HopRockers · 08/10/2022 21:04

Michael Matheson Is wrongly listed as Labour - he's SNP & I am properly shocked & delighted that he was there. I have been speaking & writing to him about this for years (& he stopped writing back over a year ago!!)

WHAT?

was he lost?

HatThatWearsYou · 09/10/2022 00:10

Please! Sorry that was a bit abrupt.

HatThatWearsYou · 09/10/2022 00:09

What should we be doing after emailing?

HopRockers · 08/10/2022 23:17

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 22:37

Oh, wow, well done, Hop! I've sadly lost all hope in my nincompoop of an SNP MP, and most of the MSPs too.

Oh I definitely can't take any credit but KEEP WRITING EVERYONE! I knew he understood it but thought he was far too much of a company man to ever break ranks.

My SNP MP is an utter lost cause & quite quite useless- doesn't matter what you write about he replies saying how the SNP are turning Scotland into the land of milk & honey & the Toarries are wronguns 🙄.

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 22:37

Oh, wow, well done, Hop! I've sadly lost all hope in my nincompoop of an SNP MP, and most of the MSPs too.

HopRockers · 08/10/2022 21:04

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 18:11

Ooh, a couple of SNP MSPs, too. I am impressed!

Michael Matheson Is wrongly listed as Labour - he's SNP & I am properly shocked & delighted that he was there. I have been speaking & writing to him about this for years (& he stopped writing back over a year ago!!)

ArabellaScott · 08/10/2022 18:11

Ooh, a couple of SNP MSPs, too. I am impressed!

334bu · 08/10/2022 16:55

There were a handful of protesters very early on but they disappeared before the rally started.

BetsyM00 · 08/10/2022 16:24

There's a blog piece now on the FWS website with links to speeches, etc. Looks like quite a few MSPs came out including half a dozen Labour and a couple of SNP.
forwomen.scot/08/10/2022/womens-rally-october-2022/

And now is the time when it's really important to email ALL of our MSPs and ask them to vote against the Bill on the 27th - there are suggested templates for letters here:
forwomen.scot/06/10/2022/gender-recognition-reform-bill-stage-1-action/

GonetoGround14 · 08/10/2022 14:34

At a guess, because the TRAs know that they have "won" in Scotland? They've probably had an assurance from the SNP that the legislation will go through whatever. SNP members of the Scottish Parliament vote the way the leadership tells them to vote.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/10/2022 12:45

Fascinating that there was no counter protest. None. Why not?

Cactus720 · 07/10/2022 10:56

www.theyworkforyou.com/msp/
THEY WORK FOR YOU is really helpful - you just write one email, and they send it to all 8 of your MSPs.
I wrote to all mine, and only one responded and said he would be at the rally.
I expressed my very strong concerns - I think it's good to put things in your own words.

ArabellaScott · 07/10/2022 10:34

To have Tories and Labour both represented is fantastic. Well done, all. And it's so lovely to hear of a rally that didn't attract threatening mobs.