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Janice Turner nails it again - girls and their breasts

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JellySaurus · 01/10/2022 07:10

I had an almost visceral reaction to this article. It resonated so strongly with my experiences as a physically developing teenager, that I started second-guessing myself: am I projecting my emotions into others? But then I realised that, no, my feelings about the way the trans train destroys girls are not projections, not prejudices. They are based on the realities of developing into a woman in a society with a toxic view of what being a woman entails. A lived experience shared with so many other girls. 'Shared'..maybe 'survived' would be more appropriate.

[[https://archive.ph/mWoLx Time to change the world, not girls’ bodies
Rather than a charity that pushes insecure teens towards breast surgery we need a movement celebrating young women]]

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BlueBrush · 01/10/2022 08:41

You shouldn’t wear one during exercise: indeed trans lobby groups advise schools to excuse girls who bind from games.

And this is so sad. If these girls identify as male, then this is taking them further and further away from the kind of freedom men and boys have to participate in physical activities, and closer towards and stereotypically fragile feminine. It's not about identifying as male, at all, is it? It's about running away from being female.

BlueBrush · 01/10/2022 08:29

Yes, @JellySaurus that resonates strongly with me too.

I can remember trying a minimiser bra when I was a teenager, because I was very shy and didn't like the attention that having big breasts brings, but quickly realised how uncomfortable it was.

It makes me sad to think I might have been drawn to being trans if I was a teenager now, given that I was still had a long way to go in growing up and I learnt to be totally happy with my body and womanness.

It is indeed the world that needs to change, and not the breasts.

Clymene · 01/10/2022 08:27

That's a really excellent piece of writing. The combination of those two articles - Lucy with the investigation and Janice with her personal perspective - is so powerful. Janice is so good at laying out what being a teenage girl feels like.

Incidentally, I was reading this list of criteria from a study on girls experiencing chest (sic) dysphoria in a series of tweets from Jesse singal.

I felt every single one of those when I first got breasts. I hated them. Couldn't look at them, developed a stoop (which I still have) in an attempt to hide them.

They are pathologising normal teenage girl development growing up in a porn soaked society which fetishes school girls and breasts.

Thread:

twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1575280120876748807?s=21&t=6wxyVzlNSbxD7Zsl8KwNZw

Janice Turner nails it again - girls and their breasts
Igneococcus · 01/10/2022 08:18

It's also shared in the Mermaid thread but here is another share token for it:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fba8aeca-40f3-11ed-b24d-96120f17513d?shareToken=ad6ea308105c0b12ca7072fe8efba5c6

umbel · 01/10/2022 08:11

@Cillery the link is in the OP, though not clickable. Here it is again. Takes me to the full article.
archive.ph/mWoLx

Cillery · 01/10/2022 07:33

Sorry I can’t find the article. Just a comment that anyone who advocates cutting young girls breasts off should be put in jail and the key thrown away