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Mermaid's chatroom is dodgy af. What a shock.

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mirax · 01/10/2022 05:27

Times' latest article exposes dodgy activities and blatant lack of safeguards for vulnerable teens on the charity's chatroom:

Unbeknown to Katie, her son had joined the charity’s youth forum, a private online community for 12-19 year-olds who are struggling with gender issues. Parents and carers are not allowed. No proof of ID or age is required, only an email address.

Once signed up, he entered an online world where vulnerable children seeking support with others in similar pain, share their personal details, including phone numbers, email addresses and social media handles, under the apparently approving supervision of Mermaids moderators.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 01/10/2022 10:11

I wonder whether Jackie will make a statement in defence of Jackei’s mum/‘ decisions?

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 10:07

I agree Scully - same with GIDS, anyone who actually cares about minors with symptoms of Gender dysphoria should be up in arms at the notion that GIDS has not been working to the same high standards as other paediatric specialisms in the NHS eg no differential diagnosis, no follow up, no evidence base for the prescriptions issued, no overall clinical responsibility by a named consultant doctor (instead the ability to hide from responsibility as the psychologist blamed the endocrinologist and the endocrinologist days, ‘I’m just doing what they ask, they make the diagnosis’.

and then mermaids coaching kids on what to say to get through the assessment process, like it’s a system to be gamed.

GIDS has been shocking, but it’s been in an abusive relationship the whole time ‘give my kid the drug I ask for or I’ll just buy it on the grey market or take them abroad anyway’

Whatwouldscullydo · 01/10/2022 09:56

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 09:48

What is it da SJW kidz say about privilege? That if you’ve always had privilege, equity for others feels like having your privilege taken away?

If you’ve never faced scrutiny before, I bet getting all this at once does feel like an attack.

It’s not an attack though, just an attempt at a rebalance. If there is a lot of dodgy shit to find, that’s a them problem, not an us problem.

What should make them angry is the while low standards discrimination. They should be made every aware if the fact that insinuating that any trans based forums involving children not being held to the same safety standards as any other platform is in fact the real attack/transphobia. Because not being giving the same safeguarding as other children it being assumed they can't abide by the same rules as others is discriminatory and dangerous.

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2022 09:54

Instructive to have the Childline approach laid out as a comparator. The key difference apparently being Mermaids' repeated preference for things being hidden.

Why all the secrecy? Why does everything get funnelled into private servers, private camps, private conversations, secret packages?

This echoes 'no debate', it's a movement that runs on obfuscation and avoidance of sunlight.

If it's all fine, healthy and safe then Mermaids have nothing to worry about.

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 09:48

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2022 09:41

Scrutiny is not attack.

What is it da SJW kidz say about privilege? That if you’ve always had privilege, equity for others feels like having your privilege taken away?

If you’ve never faced scrutiny before, I bet getting all this at once does feel like an attack.

It’s not an attack though, just an attempt at a rebalance. If there is a lot of dodgy shit to find, that’s a them problem, not an us problem.

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 09:43

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/10/2022 09:30

[Mermaids] said: “We’re in the midst of a targeted, cynical attack

nope

you’re just a group trying to justify your own choices by transing other people’s children

surely the wheels have got to come off this time?

And training christ knows how many teachers, social workers and youth workers to trans other people’s children.

These Mermaids have tentacles.

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2022 09:41

Scrutiny is not attack.

Hearthnhome · 01/10/2022 09:40

Exactly what’s to stop me, a 40 year old mother, joining if they don’t check details?

And if I can join and pretend to be a teenager, who else can?

Mermaids aren’t being attacked. They just were allowed to get away with too much for too long and now facing the consequences of that.

Smilelesstalkmore · 01/10/2022 09:35

Who were these moderators, what training did they have? What checks did users of the forums have before being allowed to post, how did the site know the users were actually between 12 and 19?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 01/10/2022 09:30

[Mermaids] said: “We’re in the midst of a targeted, cynical attack

nope

you’re just a group trying to justify your own choices by transing other people’s children

surely the wheels have got to come off this time?

Dreikanter · 01/10/2022 09:01

Security of our platforms and safeguarding of young people is of the utmost importance to us

Because who wants another ICO fine where the investigation findings states “Mermaids had a negligent approach towards data protection”.

ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2021/07/ico-fines-transgender-charity-for-data-protection-breach-exposing-sensitive-personal-data/