I read that thread when I was first tweeted. it isn’t that relevant to this thread.
Sapphos, people aren’t saying there should be ‘no lines’.
People are :
-pointing out that your mate and some other feminists are bullies, despite some of them doing such amazing work to progress women’s needs.
-pointing out that not one person who waves their hand about ‘allowing ‘far’ right wing groups to video’ has offered useful advice how that works with events in public uncontrolled spaces.
-asking for definitions of far right and fascist because so far it seems that ‘far right’ and ‘racist’ has become a useless catch all for anyone that even talked to someone once. The very fact Andy Ngo was posed as ‘far right’ anf then what was posted as evidence leads us to believe that some people repeating the ‘fascist’ and ‘far right’ claims seem to take someone else’s prejudiced view as being expert.
-pointing out those demanding denouncements also have not suggested how that works for these events.
and finally
-pointing out the hypocrisy where instances in the past of other feminists and feminist groups or LGB organisations where ‘bad people’ were allowed who videoed or protested, or where they associated with or ‘worked with’, had no push back from these same people demanding it now.
And frankly, posting that thread here is another example of ‘us and them’ or absolutism. It merely contributes to the vilification that was started with a statement that included a ‘sin list’ for a woman who is working rather successfully doing her own style of activism that then included a large proportion of items that other approved feminists had discussed with no vilification.
A woman who has also been instrumental in spurring on fundraising for women who needed it as well as letting other women out there have a voice.
So, sorry. I disagree that that thread is ‘interesting’. I thought that thread was not particularly relevant to this one unless someone is determined to continue the absolutism.
In which case, let’s splinter the whole damn movement apart and your group can stay pure and left behind. Because I believe there has been plenty of attempts at ‘purifying’ other groups like Sex Matters who are not set up along political ideological lines and I have seen the pushback.
It has not been in favour of ‘purity’. And it is perfectly fine. Groups come and go. They are all perfectly able to be created and do their thing and either gain or lose relevance to the wider movement. It is perfectly fine to stay pure and do your own thing.
It is the pressure to conform to demands that is the issue. But this has been repeated so many times now over numerous threads, hasn’t it?