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Solidarity with the brave women of Iran

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Signalbox · 24/09/2022 21:23

Just reading/watching about the tragic death of Mahsa Amini following her arrest for incorrectly wearing the hijab. These women are so incredibly brave.

"Anti-government protests are taking place across Iran following the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini on 16 September. Amini was detained in Tehran by a paramilitary unit that enforces Islamic dress codes after she reportedly didn’t wear the hijab correctly. She fell into a coma under unknown circumstances while in custody and later died, prompting outrage at religious police and security forces. However, despite its scale, analysts and diplomats are doubtful that the protests will lead to any significant change."

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Signalbox · 06/10/2022 20:25

yorkshireteaparty · 06/10/2022 20:11

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/06/mother-of-dead-iran-schoolgirl-accuses-authorities-of?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

God that's awful 😢

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yorkshireteaparty · 06/10/2022 20:12

The women and young people of Iran are brave and it's important we keep their fight at the forefront

StillWeRise · 06/10/2022 19:07

does anyone know f any solidarity actions or other ways we can help?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/10/2022 00:50

In order to pretend this isn't the backwater.
To pretend that there is a feminism which is apart from sex and gender.

Obviously there isn't. There's nothing to discuss in feminism which doesn't hinge on the sex of the feminists.

This.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/10/2022 22:35

PeekAtYou · 05/10/2022 20:31

vm.tiktok.com/ZMFF35pfN/
I don't know if this is the same school but wow 🤩

Kudos to those brave girls!
The BBC Radio 4 "The World Tonight" news programme just covered this.

PeekAtYou · 05/10/2022 20:31

vm.tiktok.com/ZMFF35pfN/
I don't know if this is the same school but wow 🤩

picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 20:23

Oh wow! Brave young women!

I wonder where their teachers stand?

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Signalbox · 05/10/2022 20:01

@ KianSharifi Senior Journalist @ bbcmonitoring

tweeted...

"A girls' school in Iran brought a member of the IRGC-run Basij paramilitary to speak to students. The girls welcomed the speaker by taking off their headscarves & chanting "get lost, Basiji"."

"Teenage girls have been at the forefront of protests for days."

twitter.com/KianSharifi/status/1577543177925435395

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Signalbox · 05/10/2022 19:47

picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 19:09

Oh wait! There's recipes! I know we need to talk about recipes quite often.

We ovary-havers do love our recipes :)

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picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 19:09

Oh wait! There's recipes! I know we need to talk about recipes quite often.

picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 19:09

In order to pretend this isn't the backwater.
To pretend that there is a feminism which is apart from sex and gender.

Obviously there isn't. There's nothing to discuss in feminism which doesn't hinge on the sex of the feminists.

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2022 18:50

Why?! Why on earth move the thread to the backwoods?

The women of Iran suffer because of their sex and gendered expectations.

picklemewalnuts · 05/10/2022 18:09

Agree! Perhaps it could go back to feminism sex and gender, via AIBU for a bit more coverage.

So impressed by the brave schoolgirls in Iran. Is it too much to hope this is the beginning of the end?

ImherewithBoudica · 05/10/2022 16:16

Agree. This is absolutely a sex based issue and not a gender based one, no one is remotely confused on who is being beaten up and killed and who is getting to do the beating up and killing. No genital or chromosome checks involved. No checking for GRCs first.

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Signalbox · 05/10/2022 16:11

KimMumsnet · 05/10/2022 15:59

Hi, OP. Just to let you know, we have moved your thread from the Sex & Gender topic to the Feminism: Chat topic.

That's a shame. The thread has been ticking along quite nicely where it is. The women of Iran are clearly being oppressed on the basis of their sex, not their self-declared gender identity. The struggle that they face has everything to do with their biological sex. These women cannot identify out of their sex class by declaring that they are non-binary or that they are men. So I can't really see why the topic doesn't belong in the category where I posted it.

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KimMumsnet · 05/10/2022 15:59

Hi, OP. Just to let you know, we have moved your thread from the Sex & Gender topic to the Feminism: Chat topic.

PeekAtYou · 05/10/2022 13:58

There are lots of videos on TikTok where schoolgirls have removed their head covering and are chanting, rebelling and protesting. They are incredible

fallinover · 05/10/2022 13:56

There are very brave indeed.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/10/2022 13:56

Nika, phone autocorrect Angry

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/10/2022 13:55

RIP Nina Flowers horrific. These women are so courageous.

oricella · 05/10/2022 12:02

Bumping to add the name of Nika Shakarami - vanished after protesting, a week for her family to receive her dead body, broken and beaten... there are so many horrors happening, I watch her so alive on this video and words fail..

From Masih Alinejad on Twitter

megletthesecond · 01/10/2022 15:30

I hope this continues to build. They're unbelievably brave.

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2022 15:27

I see there have been protests in Afghanistan, supporting the women of Iran and women's rights.

I wish I could do more than just state my solidarity, but it's there, for what it's worth.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11261919/Taliban-forces-clash-women-shouting-life-freedom.html

TheBiologyStupid · 01/10/2022 14:57

TheBiologyStupid · 01/10/2022 14:55

Dr. Shiva Balaghi on Twitter: "The digital protest art being created in Iranmuch of it anonymouslyhas been absolutely brilliant":

twitter.com/SBalaghi/status/1575641902665170944

Oops, not sure how the strike-through happened - it wasn't intentional.