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Solidarity with the brave women of Iran

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Signalbox · 24/09/2022 21:23

Just reading/watching about the tragic death of Mahsa Amini following her arrest for incorrectly wearing the hijab. These women are so incredibly brave.

"Anti-government protests are taking place across Iran following the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini on 16 September. Amini was detained in Tehran by a paramilitary unit that enforces Islamic dress codes after she reportedly didn’t wear the hijab correctly. She fell into a coma under unknown circumstances while in custody and later died, prompting outrage at religious police and security forces. However, despite its scale, analysts and diplomats are doubtful that the protests will lead to any significant change."

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Signalbox · 16/11/2022 12:20

TheBiologyStupid · 16/11/2022 11:38

Agreed.

Mea culpa - I posted the link to the NewsWeek article.

No harm in sharing. It's good to get a sense of which of these news sources are credible and report with integrity. I don't know much about NewsWeek but I did go back to read the article again with a more critical eye. They seem to have made a couple of significant changes, one to the headline which had been pretty inflammatory (about 15,000 facing execution), but also a paragraph about parliament voting for death sentences for protesters. Once the story is out (and being tweeted by Leaders of the Western world) they make changes to the story to make it more accurate, but the fake news stays out there. It's hard to think they don't do it on purpose.

Correction...

"Correction 11/15/22, 12:05 p.m. ET: This article and headline were updated to remove the reference to the Iranian Parliament voting for death sentences. A majority of the parliament supported a letter to the judiciary calling for harsh punishments of protesters, which could include the death penalty."

Para in original article...

"As thousands continue to rally across Iran's capital city of Tehran, defying a brutal crackdown by Iranian forces, on Tuesday, the country's parliament overwhelmingly voted in favor of the death penalty for protesters."

Archive of original story...
archive.ph/UCJIa

Solidarity with the brave women of Iran
Solidarity with the brave women of Iran
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TheBiologyStupid · 16/11/2022 11:38

ArabellaScott · 16/11/2022 11:15

Thank you, Signalbox. Yes, reporting truthfully and accurately is essential. What is happening to protestors in Iran is abhorrent; repeating claims that aren't verified risks losing trust and clarity.

Agreed.

Mea culpa - I posted the link to the NewsWeek article.

Signalbox · 16/11/2022 11:30

ArabellaScott · 16/11/2022 11:15

Thank you, Signalbox. Yes, reporting truthfully and accurately is essential. What is happening to protestors in Iran is abhorrent; repeating claims that aren't verified risks losing trust and clarity.

It's a good reminder for me that I should properly read articles and maintain a degree of scepticism. Your previous post querying the accuracy of the reports made me think twice :)

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ArabellaScott · 16/11/2022 11:15

Thank you, Signalbox. Yes, reporting truthfully and accurately is essential. What is happening to protestors in Iran is abhorrent; repeating claims that aren't verified risks losing trust and clarity.

Signalbox · 16/11/2022 11:02

This thread by journalist Shayan Sardarizadeh is interesting. He fact checks the claim, repeated by Justin Trudeau, that the Iranian regime has committed to executing 15,000 detained protesters...

twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1592476918305427458

The widely shared claim that the Iranian regime has committed to executing 15,000 detained protesters is not true. Please stop sharing it. The Iranian regime is horrific, brutal and ruthless as it actually is. There's no need to make up stories.

This is what happens when reputable sources like Newsweek publish stories that lack basic context and facts. Even Candian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has tweeted the inaccurate claim.

The Iranian regime is horrible as it actually is. Report the facts on what it's doing.

Here are the facts:

Rights groups estimate 344 protesters, including 52 children, have so far been killed and 15,820 arrested by the Iranian regime.

The regime is well-known for beating up and torturing protesters and political activists in its notorious prisons.

The regime is also well-known for holding sham trials and handing out lenghty prison sentences to activists and protesters, and is widely expected to do the same again.

1,019 protesters have so far been formally charged by the regime. Most have not been charged or tried yet.

There have been calls by 227 Iranian MPs and some hardline groups inside Iran for tough sentences for protesters, including the potential use of the death penalty.

The first death sentence for a protester was handed out two days ago.

One of the six men on trial for taking part in protests in Iran has been convicted of "moharebeh" and sentenced to death, the judiciary has announced.

The unnamed individual is the first person to be given the death penalty since protests started in September. twitter.com/KianSharifi/st…

The Iranian regime is not alien to mass executions of political prisoners. It's one of the most brutal regimes on the planet.

In 1988, after a decree by its founder Ayatollah Khomeini, the regime executed between 2,500 and 30,000 political prisoners. The exact number is unknown.

But it's much harder for the Iranian regime to do mass executions in 2022 for a variety of reasons.

The regime has already killed hundreds and detained thousands of protesters in just eight weeks.

Report the facts of what it's doing to Iranians. They're horrific enough.

The Iranian regime has already issued the death peanlty to one protester and will almost certainly hand out more.

Journalists and rights groups should report each unjust sentence by Iran's notorious judiciary and hold the regime to account, but we must do so based on facts.

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mrshoho · 16/11/2022 10:01

Yes thank you @Covetthee . If our small actions to spread awareness can help then that is the least we can all do here. 💗 to the Iranian brave women, girls and also the men standing by their side.

Signalbox · 15/11/2022 21:56

Covetthee · 15/11/2022 20:47

As an Iranian thank you to all of you who want to support and doing your research.

I know it seems really pointless because you’re 1 person but sharing about it on social media really does help! It has really helped the movement and it really keeps the spirits of those back home up knowing the world is behind them

one example NY times has refused many times to report or report incorrect information, but just by people on social media using their voices they have managed to change this.

unfortunately the media doesn’t report the most abhorrent details from the protest. If anyone is really interested then there are a few iranians who are reporting exactly the travesty of what is goinf daily on what is happening

nazanian boniadi is a great person to follow for any information

Thank you Covetthee, I have followed Nazanian Boniadi.

You are right that can feel a bit pointless sharing reports of what is happening in Iran but good to hear that pressure has forced the media to sort themselves out. I guess it's good to make sure that people know the world is watching and that we are standing in solidarity with the people of Iran, although it does feel like the very least that we can do!

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Covetthee · 15/11/2022 20:47

As an Iranian thank you to all of you who want to support and doing your research.

I know it seems really pointless because you’re 1 person but sharing about it on social media really does help! It has really helped the movement and it really keeps the spirits of those back home up knowing the world is behind them

one example NY times has refused many times to report or report incorrect information, but just by people on social media using their voices they have managed to change this.

unfortunately the media doesn’t report the most abhorrent details from the protest. If anyone is really interested then there are a few iranians who are reporting exactly the travesty of what is goinf daily on what is happening

nazanian boniadi is a great person to follow for any information

mrshoho · 15/11/2022 20:40

I can't imagine the horror facing Women there. The courageous youth standing up for their freedom knowing the very real threat to life. I feel helpless here.

Bananasinpyjamas21 · 15/11/2022 20:12

We really need to support this in any way we can. So many young people are risking their lives for basic human rights.

Signalbox · 15/11/2022 20:10

Interview on woman's hour with Faranak Amidi... starts at 03.45

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001f4tf

"15,000 currently on trial, the fear of execution is real."

"Women continue to lead protests in Iran. But many Iranians say speaking out against the regime brings real risks. Now according to State Media a court in Iran has issued the first death sentence to a person arrested for taking part. We get the latest from Faranak Amidi the BBC's Near East Women's Affairs Reporter and Rushanara Ali the Labour MP for Bethnal Green and Bow about what she wants the UK Government to do."

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1984onstilts · 12/11/2022 21:13

FourChimneys · 12/11/2022 16:18

If the England football team don't refuse to play Iran in the World Cup then they are despicably complicit. As would be all the other teams.

Men need to stand up against this brutality by other men. The excuse of money simply cannot be allowed to happen.

Agree 100%.

ArabellaScott · 12/11/2022 20:05

Thanks, Emotionalsupportviper. I'm still not seeing a definitive statement that supports the Twitter video statement that it's 'becoming a rule' to execute protestors, only that parliament voted to 'teach them a good lesson' -

'the methods of which were not specified'

The 'rape of virgins' doesn't seem to have any solid evidence behind it - from what I read it's based on one article in one paper (Jerusalem Times, I think), years back. Again, I'm not saying it's never happened, but I can't find any solid evidence.

Emotionalsupportviper · 12/11/2022 18:08

TheBiologyStupid · 12/11/2022 15:57

NewsWeek has the story, but doesn't mention anything about virgins: www.newsweek.com/iran-protesters-refuse-back-down-15000-face-execution-1758578

twitter.com/MatteaMerta/status/1590892652631031808

www.newsweek.com/iran-protesters-refuse-back-down-15000-face-execution-1758578?amp=1

The second link in my post above mentions the SA of virgin girls/women.

FourChimneys · 12/11/2022 16:18

If the England football team don't refuse to play Iran in the World Cup then they are despicably complicit. As would be all the other teams.

Men need to stand up against this brutality by other men. The excuse of money simply cannot be allowed to happen.

TheBiologyStupid · 12/11/2022 15:57

NewsWeek has the story, but doesn't mention anything about virgins: www.newsweek.com/iran-protesters-refuse-back-down-15000-face-execution-1758578

ArabellaScott · 12/11/2022 15:11

I've had a look and can't find much to support those figures, nor the part about virgins being raped. Not to say its not true, but I can't find many reputable sources reporting on it.

www.express.co.uk/news/world/1694363/Iran-protests-clerical-regime-revolutionary-guard-supreme-leader-ali-khamenei-vn

Oddly, the Express seems to be reporting on this more than the BBC.

Noting Iran is apparently supplying Russia with weapons in Ukraine.

Emotionalsupportviper · 12/11/2022 14:55

This isn't the half of it! Sharron Davies tweeted on this.

twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1591333148985806849

twitter.com/planetofjah/status/1590391836585394176

15,000 women are to be executed. Those who are virgins will be raped before being murdered, because Islam doesn't allow the execution of a virgin.

How is this happening? It's beyond appalling!

Where is the world's outcry for these incredibly courageous women and girls?

ArabellaScott · 12/11/2022 13:36

Wow. That's powerful, Masih Alinejad is awe inspiring.

TheBiologyStupid · 12/11/2022 12:33

“The compulsory hijab is like the Berlin Wall: once it falls the whole Islamic Republic will be done. That’s why the mullahs are scared. Millions of girls and women in Iran are now standing shoulder to shoulder and saying no; we are ready to die, but we won’t live with this humiliation.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/12/iranian-activist-masih-alinejad-its-the-start-of-the-end-for-the-islamic-republic

TheBiologyStupid · 31/10/2022 17:29

Despite the regime's brutality, they are still protesting.

Masih Alinejad on Twitter: "This is how we win. Hope over darkness. Despite an estimated 300 killed and 14,000 arrests, students are back on the streets in Mashhad, Iran, this time fist bumps and hugs. The girl who took the vide says; heartwarming to see men are with us. We are no longer alone." #MahsaAmini

twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1586719059739025409

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 21:04

Thousands ignore govt road closures to walk to Mahsa Amini’s grave in her hometown of Saqez 40 days after her death:

twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1585268047312523264

dementedma · 27/10/2022 19:02

Meanwhile,here in Scotland,women's rights are being removed by the SNP.

Signalbox · 27/10/2022 19:00

”Fresh crackdown on Iran mourners at girl's gravesite”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-63411451

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