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Fred Sargeant assaulted

68 replies

chilling19 · 19/09/2022 18:19

It was only a matter of time before this happened.

Blistering piece written by William Ferguson

Post edited by MNHQ

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Abhannmor · 21/09/2022 15:36

picklemewalnuts · 21/09/2022 13:18

I could go for a lunch up. Bit like afternoon tea, I reckon, but more lunch like.

Autocorrect is spectacularly intrusive at the moment.

Can't beat a bit of knuckle sandwich. I had a mate who supported Chelsea who told me " I only used to go for the fights '.

Guessing some of the young tras are similarly motivated.

picklemewalnuts · 21/09/2022 13:18

KittenKong · 21/09/2022 07:28

Rubbish.

Fred has concerns - rightful concerns of the Qing of the gay rights movements. He was at the stonewall riots and is not being told be kids young enough to be his grandchildren that a trans woman rode up on her white charger with and assembly of angles and smote the fascist police.

these kiddos have nothing to fight for (they have rights) so are fighting against women. I’d hazard a guess that a fair chunk aren’t gay/Bi and another chunk are just football hooligan types looking for a lunch up.

I could go for a lunch up. Bit like afternoon tea, I reckon, but more lunch like.

Autocorrect is spectacularly intrusive at the moment.

AgnestaVipers · 21/09/2022 13:04

Just to be clear, @landOFconfusion , are you saying the founder of the first ever gay pride march has no right to go to a Pride parade?

Or that he does, but only so long as he participates in the groupthink?

Needmoresleep · 21/09/2022 11:54

Fox Fisher, and her partner Owl (TW and TM) has a long history of activism.

Here is one highlight
www.standard.co.uk/culture/books/owl-and-fox-fisher-j-k-rowling-interview-a4481236.html

There is an unintentionally funny documentary somewhere made about four years ago about their campaigning. Worth a watch as it is difficult then to take them seriously.

ChagSameachDoreen · 21/09/2022 11:36

Red Guard behaviour.

Clymene · 21/09/2022 09:30

landOFconfusion · 21/09/2022 07:16

All of the participants in this confrontation are despicable.

If you go to a Pride event with a protest placard that tells event participants that they shouldn’t feel pride in their identity then you’re a real life troll who wants to provoke confrontation.

And similarly if you feel moved to violence by a weak and pathetic old man with a placard then you’ve got no sense of restraint or self-control.

Without Fred, there wouldn't be an event.

And there's nothing pathetic about him. Your ageism is showing.

Abhannmor · 21/09/2022 09:23

Ps There is nothing ' pathetic ' about Fred Sargeant. He still has his cognitive faculties and knows exactly what happened at Stonewall in 1969. Which is why the gender extremists hate him of course.
We are FB friends and he has a great sense of humour.

Abhannmor · 21/09/2022 09:13

Insulting rubbish at that. As one of the 4 people who organised the first Pride march in 1970 he is perfectly entitled to peacefully protest its hijacking by straight men - and women - with their own agenda.

KittenKong · 21/09/2022 07:47

No. Especially if they are - shudder - elderly.

but he did stop one twerp arguing when he told him that he wasn’t exactly catch of the day (he was wearing a fishnet top).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/09/2022 07:34

If you go to a Pride event with a protest placard

I thought "Pride was a protest"? Rather than the corporate sponsored hugbox it's become. Are gay men allowed to be proud that they are only attracted to their own sex?

KittenKong · 21/09/2022 07:28

Rubbish.

Fred has concerns - rightful concerns of the Qing of the gay rights movements. He was at the stonewall riots and is not being told be kids young enough to be his grandchildren that a trans woman rode up on her white charger with and assembly of angles and smote the fascist police.

these kiddos have nothing to fight for (they have rights) so are fighting against women. I’d hazard a guess that a fair chunk aren’t gay/Bi and another chunk are just football hooligan types looking for a lunch up.

landOFconfusion · 21/09/2022 07:16

All of the participants in this confrontation are despicable.

If you go to a Pride event with a protest placard that tells event participants that they shouldn’t feel pride in their identity then you’re a real life troll who wants to provoke confrontation.

And similarly if you feel moved to violence by a weak and pathetic old man with a placard then you’ve got no sense of restraint or self-control.

miri1985 · 21/09/2022 03:24

The DM posted an article with very clear face shots of the cowards who attacked him, hopefully Fred Sargeant gets justice www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231895/Veteran-gay-rights-protester-74-1969-Stonewall-Riots-attacked-pro-trans-mob.html

SidewaysOtter · 20/09/2022 22:34

Thelnebriati · 19/09/2022 22:33

Call it what it is. Trans activists gay bashed a gay rights activist.

Abso fucking lutely.

Reinforcement of gender stereotypes, gay bashing - where does this shit end?

caracvanning · 20/09/2022 16:01

TheBiologyStupid · 20/09/2022 12:09

This!

100% this.

Its like being back in the 1960s.

Disgustingly regressive movement that this gender ideology is.

WolverineBluey · 20/09/2022 14:35

KittenKong · 20/09/2022 12:33

i think Fred was a police officer. Fox is… lord knows but they and their pal (otter?) came in to DS school for a talk. 😡

One of the trans writers who seemed to think Hatchette would dump JKR if they threatened to walk, if I recall. Didn't get their own way on that one, surprisingly.

KittenKong · 20/09/2022 12:33

i think Fred was a police officer. Fox is… lord knows but they and their pal (otter?) came in to DS school for a talk. 😡

TheBiologyStupid · 20/09/2022 12:09

Thelnebriati · 19/09/2022 22:33

Call it what it is. Trans activists gay bashed a gay rights activist.

This!

mirax · 20/09/2022 11:55

Is Fox Fisher a serving police officer? Someone mentioned that.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2022 08:52

'This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.'

Look tougher? Look more intimidating, you mean, Fox? Yes. They are intimidating. Especially given that they are throwing smoke bombs and other missiles, shouting, and playing noisemakers.

Well done. You are part of a terrorist movement.

ArcheryAnnie · 19/09/2022 23:57

WolverineBluey · 19/09/2022 23:36

So sorry for what happened to Fred and hope he recovers soon. It is disgraceful. Repeating myself here as mentioned this on the other thread but worth pointing out some of Fox Fisher's take on Brighton, justifying this kind of dreadful behaviour. They really do think they are doing nothing wrong:

Some trans supporters made an entrance just in front of the police line, in a black uniform of masks, gloves, hoods and matching flags. This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.

Frustrated angry chants, the theatrics of coloured flares, the ninja style black uniform and the arresting of two trans rights supporters (with three police knocking one small framed person to the ground) is easy to twist in the media as something fearful

mobile.twitter.com/theFoxFisher/status/1571581457310814208

That's the same Fox Fisher who famously filmed a vlog describing LGB sexuality as a "deviant kind of thing". Fisher would be first in line to protect those who gaybashed Fred.

WolverineBluey · 19/09/2022 23:36

So sorry for what happened to Fred and hope he recovers soon. It is disgraceful. Repeating myself here as mentioned this on the other thread but worth pointing out some of Fox Fisher's take on Brighton, justifying this kind of dreadful behaviour. They really do think they are doing nothing wrong:

Some trans supporters made an entrance just in front of the police line, in a black uniform of masks, gloves, hoods and matching flags. This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.

Frustrated angry chants, the theatrics of coloured flares, the ninja style black uniform and the arresting of two trans rights supporters (with three police knocking one small framed person to the ground) is easy to twist in the media as something fearful

mobile.twitter.com/theFoxFisher/status/1571581457310814208

Waitwhat23 · 19/09/2022 23:22

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 19/09/2022 19:33

Multiple people attacking a 70 year old man and pushing him over.

Two grown women shouting at a baby.

And the police won't police them so they feel invincible.

They are narcissists, they are losing their fight, they are escalating the abuse. Unless cops start clamping down hard on TRA crowds, will be murders soon.

I agree. I've seen an increasing level of posts on other platforms which really come across as (word we're not allowed to use) end of days type behaviour. 'By any means necessary' and 'terfs shouldn't be allowed to exist' are repeated with worrying regularity.

ArcheryAnnie · 19/09/2022 23:17

Jesus fucking christ. Gaybashing someone who was at Stonewall, and thinking themselves righteous. Utter dicks.

Please get better soon, Fred. 🌹

Ein · 19/09/2022 23:11

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 19/09/2022 19:33

Multiple people attacking a 70 year old man and pushing him over.

Two grown women shouting at a baby.

And the police won't police them so they feel invincible.

They are narcissists, they are losing their fight, they are escalating the abuse. Unless cops start clamping down hard on TRA crowds, will be murders soon.

The problem is the police. There have always been people, in every time and place, who want to hit and abuse those weaker than them, whether it’s women, old people, or children. The police are supposed to arrest the attacker. That’s all that keeps it in check.

Transwomen (notice how it’s never transmen) don’t get arrested. They can shout at whom they like, hit whom they like, and the police just Macarena behind them in rainbow lanyards pretending not to see.

So now anyone who wants to have a consequence-free fight can stick on a skirt and make up and it’s like the Monopoly ‘get out of jail free’ card.

What could possibly go wrong with that 🤔

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