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The solution to drowning out speakers at events

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FruHagen · 18/09/2022 12:53

I have just seen a short Facebook live where Posie Parker was being drowned out at her Brighton event. Drowning out seems to be the main counter attack they have, hence response of "let women speak".

I think I have a rough answer to how we can get around it, it's too late now for today but we should use the same technology they use at a Silent Disco.

Has anyone ever been to one? You wear headphones and the DJ plays the music into each individual's headphones. Well we could use the same technique for these events.

Everyone gets a set of headphones and the speakers words are sent to the headphones. You will hear a bit of the background noise but you'll still get a much clearer audio experience. You will hear women speak.
Everyone can have a set of headphones - all can hear if they want. Even the TRAs.

At the same time the live stream of the speakers is broadcast online so that a huge audience can also hear.

What do you think? Could it work?

Someone would need to help Posie or whoever needs it, implement it but could be a funny workaround?

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ZombieMumEB · 19/09/2022 10:13

Datun · 18/09/2022 17:23

Although it's vastly irritating to have TRAs drown out the women, I imagine it's part of Posie's strategy, in order to show them up, and their tactics.

Which of course it does.

Yes, the more talks that are held, the more the public will see the truth.

I do like the suggestion of headphones and if I were able to go to one of these events (I can't as I live in Australia), and if I wasn't able to hear the speaker, I'd love to use headphones to hear.

SunThroughTheCloudsAt6am · 19/09/2022 09:59

No reason it couldn't be live-streamed and people could listen on their own phones/headphones whilst standing there - a decent mike would help with that, and just letting people know that it is possible - it would be a little out of sync, but still..

Although the TRAs will likely just set up (illegal) jamming - not hard to get hold of devices that'll make a silent disco basically unusable.

JellySaurus · 19/09/2022 09:56

This strategy would also look similar to the measured faces of the anti-women's-rights protesters. What have the speakers got to hide?

...the masked faces...

JellySaurus · 19/09/2022 09:55

People who make the effort to attend these public meetings will, for the most part, already support the aims of the meetings.

It is so important that bystanders, observers, the curious, reporters, even opponents, should be able to hear and understand the issues.

They are as important as lurkers on these boards.

Making the speeches only available to 'subscribers' cuts these 'lurkers' out.

This strategy would also look similar to the measured faces of the anti-women's-rights protesters. What have the speakers got to hide?

Protesters shouting at secret speeches is completely different to protesters trying to drown women out and heckling during a commemorative silence.

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ImherewithBoudica · 18/09/2022 18:21

Datun · 18/09/2022 17:23

Although it's vastly irritating to have TRAs drown out the women, I imagine it's part of Posie's strategy, in order to show them up, and their tactics.

Which of course it does.

Quite.

'Let Women Speak'

And the answer is a loud, angry, threatening and derisive 'no' . On cue. Beautifully performed. Angry, violent misogyny and threats screamed at women talking about assault, the experience of Autism, other sensitive issues.

I don't think the general public is going to have much trouble figuring out the issues.

Datun · 18/09/2022 17:23

Although it's vastly irritating to have TRAs drown out the women, I imagine it's part of Posie's strategy, in order to show them up, and their tactics.

Which of course it does.

FruHagen · 18/09/2022 17:10

Agreed

Watching today, I think it's important to hear each other (in context)

Maybe this is performance art at some point

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Handyweatherstation · 18/09/2022 16:19

Interesting idea, but if I was at one of those events I'd want to be fully aware of what was going on around me and headphones would interfere with that.

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/09/2022 16:14

I'm furious. I honestly think TRA's are doing so much damage to trans people. Someone was hit on the head by a smoke bomb. There were some excellent speakers there today.

endofthelinefinally · 18/09/2022 16:13

It was interesting to note which group ignored the minute's silence.

Pudmyboy · 18/09/2022 14:54

DPotter · 18/09/2022 13:07

I think it's an interesting idea.

However I completely appreciate Doyoumind's comment about the police keeping the peace so that women can speak.
(to overcome the mic picking up background noise, the speaker could use one of the mic sports' reporters use)

This sounds excellent, I wonder if they are readily available?

FunnyTalks · 18/09/2022 14:06

It is an interesting idea. I think I like it more as a statement or art concept.

However, I think if you were at the point of receiving headphones, you're probably already aware of the issues.

I think the very best thing women have on their side is usually provided by TRAs themselves (by TRA I do not mean trans person. Many, even most, TRAs are not trans themselves).

Remember "no debate ' was demanded because they barely actually have anything to debate with. Theirs is a faith-based religion. It means when there finally is an attempt at conversation, TRAs look illogical and hyperbolic.

Often TRAs provide the optics which prove women's point for them - be it drowning out, physical intimidation, male dominance displays, or placards with rape threats.

The best women can do is keep trying, keep appearing in public, keep demanding the police do their job without misogynist bias. And keep recording and publicising the results.

FruHagen · 18/09/2022 13:08

Yes maybe. Important to have voices heard.

Do you think the police will be better this time?

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DPotter · 18/09/2022 13:07

I think it's an interesting idea.

However I completely appreciate Doyoumind's comment about the police keeping the peace so that women can speak.
(to overcome the mic picking up background noise, the speaker could use one of the mic sports' reporters use)

Doyoumind · 18/09/2022 13:03

Completely defeats the object and the mic would still pick up the noise. The solution is for the police to keep the mob far enough away and to let women speak.

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