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Would you want your child to be taught by someone who looked like this?

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grannyjacob · 16/09/2022 15:24

How can this be allowed?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2022 12:06

Yes it's quite a common one I think.

jewishmum · 17/09/2022 12:00

Whatsnewpussyhat · 17/09/2022 11:40

Unless being ridiculed is another one of his fetishes?

For some men it is.

Touché.

Whatwouldscullydo · 17/09/2022 11:44

Iguanainanigloo · 17/09/2022 11:32

No I would not be happy about this at all. If it's real, it's just ridiculous that the students are expected to just turn a blind eye to it, and carry on with their learning, being taught by someone who thinks this is at all appropriate. I understand the school are probably in a difficult position with regards to the employment of this individual, but they could and really should be calling them up on h&s, and generally making sure all teachers are conforming to a certain professional dress code at work.

This fear is ridiculous really. Mean the "gender" isn't even relevant. Whatver teachers wear should be appropriate for the classroom. This isnt.

Firing them for mis conduct should be a no brained. Its not a trans thing. Its an u appropriate behavior thing.

Unless they are saying trans teachers need to wear huge fake breasts around their waists with nipples showing in order to participate in life? That's pretty transphobic to assume they are in fact incapable of behaving appropriately?

The low standards is the transphobia. Not pulling a teacher up for it.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 17/09/2022 11:40

Unless being ridiculed is another one of his fetishes?

For some men it is.

ReunitedThorns · 17/09/2022 11:32

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/09/2022 11:11

He knows it's a fetish.

I've got no problem with that fact.

What worries me about the affirmation model is that every so-called specialist is reluctant to call it that, and that we are training people (both those with the fetish and everyone else) not to see it that way. It's dangerous and boundaries need to be set.

I'm just staggered that the man in question has no self-awareness at how ridiculous he looks. Unless being ridiculed is another one of his fetishes?

Iguanainanigloo · 17/09/2022 11:32

No I would not be happy about this at all. If it's real, it's just ridiculous that the students are expected to just turn a blind eye to it, and carry on with their learning, being taught by someone who thinks this is at all appropriate. I understand the school are probably in a difficult position with regards to the employment of this individual, but they could and really should be calling them up on h&s, and generally making sure all teachers are conforming to a certain professional dress code at work.

WarriorN · 17/09/2022 11:21

@Ritascornershop are you in Canada? That's interesting.

There's increasingly strict codes of conduct as a part of safeguarding laws in the uk. Which includes dress.

WarriorN · 17/09/2022 11:18

Fuuuuuckit · 16/09/2022 16:35

Ye gods. Hair needs tying back as a basic h&s measure. As a female teacher I'd be told in no uncertain terms to cover up (my nipples) if I arrived in a classroom looking like that, and I'm self-aware enough to know that the kids would mightily take the piss out of me if they were sticking up like that (picture 30 teenagers sniggering about it being cold in the classroom, then it would be school-wide by first break).

As a DT teacher first rule of safety is long hair tied back, lanyards removed and anything else loose (shirt sleeves, tie, massive tits etc) needs to be removed/covered with an apron. I imagine this teacher has a comedy big boobs apron for such times.

Yes. It's so fucking basic I can't believe the ideology allows basic H and S to go out of the window.

(Sadly I am now attuned to basic safeguarding going out of the window.)

Even if this is a fancy dress, that's not safe. It's also the most sexist fancy dress ever and wouldn't be allowed.

Hence I believe it's real.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/09/2022 11:14

"I wonder if the man in question knows it's a fetish or instead thinks that he is really transgender because that is what all these groups tell him it is? Is he another "victim" (I deliberately put that in quotes) of the affirmation culture?"

There are victims in this - but it's not him. It's the children forced into accepting him as a "role model". It's every unconsenting adult having to remain "professional" and not call out the disgraceful behaviour that this is. Add to this the erosion of boundaries and safeguarding children from adult fetishes that this represents. Not to mention the professional reputation of a school that is unable to say the word "no" in the face of such behaviour.

Where Canada is now is where this country is heading, unless we find the collective wisdom to say no to these people.

WarriorN · 17/09/2022 11:14

We had our updated safeguarding training last week.

The code of conduct documents are getting longer. Which is good. "Appropriate" is a common word.

That teacher wouldn't get within 1 mile of our school under that document.

WarriorN · 17/09/2022 11:11

Am I the only teacher who's thinking (apart from the obvious enjoyment they're getting from that outfit) that none of what that person is wearing is appropriately safe for woodwork?

HEATH AND SAFETY FFS.

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/09/2022 11:11

ReunitedThorns · 17/09/2022 11:02

There is a lot of talk about it being a fetish (which it clearly is), but I wonder if the man in question knows it's a fetish or instead thinks that he is really transgender because that is what all these groups tell him it is? Is he another "victim" (I deliberately put that in quotes) of the affirmation culture?

He knows it's a fetish.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 17/09/2022 11:09

The name lines up with a teacher in that area.

Yes, there is no way it’s a hoax. The person being repeatedly named, and the school (who were contacted) would be falling all over themselves to clarify that they are being maligned, and that this repulsive fetishist has nothing to do with them. If that were the case.

Reduxx are fantastic and have broken so many stories; the mainstream press keeps using their stories, often without giving them credit. I really admire the women behind Reduxx.

I keep wondering what’s going to be a bridge too far for Canada. Yaniv wasn’t, but then he mostly picked on poor women of colour. They don’t give a shit about women being raped in prison or intimidated in homeless shelters, but sadly that’s the same everywhere. This person parading his fetish in front of (middle class or possibly even affluent?) schoolchildren might finally set off the fire alarm?

ReunitedThorns · 17/09/2022 11:02

There is a lot of talk about it being a fetish (which it clearly is), but I wonder if the man in question knows it's a fetish or instead thinks that he is really transgender because that is what all these groups tell him it is? Is he another "victim" (I deliberately put that in quotes) of the affirmation culture?

Whatwouldscullydo · 17/09/2022 10:33

Almost tempting that should say

Whatwouldscullydo · 17/09/2022 10:32

GrabbyGabby · 17/09/2022 10:25

Where is the @dailymail when you need them?

Most tempting to put this in aibu aswell but I can't see it go down well

GrabbyGabby · 17/09/2022 10:25

Where is the @dailymail when you need them?

ImNotAnExpert · 17/09/2022 10:16

stillvicarinatutu · 17/09/2022 03:10

Love and let mice ?? Ffs .

Live and let live . Is what I was attempting to write.

I like 'love and let mice'.

ShamedBySiri · 17/09/2022 10:11

double standards. A female teacher would be pulled up about her appearance if she looked this way - shape hugging top covering large breasts, clear nipple shape and dark areola on show.

Of course some women do have enormous breasts like this but mostly they are a source of embarrassment and also physical discomfort so women try to cover up and not draw attention to themselves and if they are lucky they can persuade the NHS to fund a breast reduction on health grounds. So no, I have never seen a woman parade their breasts like this, and employers are unlikely to be put in the tricky position of having such a discussion.

Slight derail but a friend is very well endowed although nothing like this, but she will never wear things like T shirts without a jacket or some sort of additional cover up. Heading off to warmer climes on holiday she sat in her seat on the plane and took off her jacket and laid it on her lap. The air hostess performing seat belt check told her to put the jacket in the overhead locker. There were some rowdy young men in the row behind her and she did not want to stand up and give them a profile view as she stowed the jacket so she asked the air hostess to do it possibly not in the best pleading way and the air hostess declined, they ended up having a big argument (it's your job/it's your jacket...Hmm) until finally the friend who was with her jumped up and said "if neither of you will do it, I will".
Like I said I think most women with large breasts try not to draw attention to themselves this way. I wonder if this man would have enjoyed the validation of jeering youths behind him?

ScreamingMeMe · 17/09/2022 10:08

FlorettaB · 16/09/2022 15:48

’demonstrating how to use a circular saw.’

That’s definitely a health and safety issue.

POP!

OrangePumpkinLobelia · 17/09/2022 10:02

ImherewithBoudica · 16/09/2022 16:44

Ooh ooh I know this...

this didn't happen
if it did, it wasn't that bad
if it was, then it wasn't meant
if it was then it did no harm
if it did...

it was your fault and you deserved it.

Sing along, we all know the words.

Got it in one.

inigomontoyahwillcox · 17/09/2022 09:59

DillonPanthersTexas · 16/09/2022 15:34

I assume they are teaching physics?

😆

ShamedBySiri · 17/09/2022 09:56

He has the same face as Eddie Izzard.

Eddie Izzard was trending on Twitter last night. Apparently quite a few people saw the similarity.

FrancescaContini · 17/09/2022 09:05

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/09/2022 08:57

Remove the labels and see what's in front of you.

THIS!!!

In spades!!!!!

Yes, I agree. This person is grotesque.

Runningintolife · 17/09/2022 09:04

Philosophically whatever the veracity it raises an interesting issue about where the line is. I want everyone to be free to get on with their life and job wearing the clothing they choose within the dress code and sticking to safeguarding rules. The knowledge that some men will be getting sexual gratification or power from others - including school children - by performing a fetish in public is challenging. We know this to be true because some men have acknowledged this. Society used to shame them with a broad brush that negatively affected most gender non conforming people. That was cruel. How can you legislate or arbitrate where the line is? When does common sense and your own eyes become prejudice? What do you ask them to stop doing or wearing?