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Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chameber) Thread 2

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nauticant · 13/09/2022 11:15

The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (?? September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (?? September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (?? September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - Not yet available
Dr Belinda Bell: Not yet available
Beverley Jackson: Not yet available
Kate Harris: Not yet available
Eileen Gallagher: Not yet available

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

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ImNotAnExpert · 14/09/2022 13:54

<moons in thread's general direction>

TheClogLady · 14/09/2022 13:54

I just posted this on another thread - may as well share if here for the the thread filling:

’Everyone I don’t like is literally Hitler by Rusty Cage:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToEvz-7trY

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/09/2022 13:54

I'm not a tree but I still keep away from chain saws

ImNotAnExpert · 14/09/2022 13:53

<sticks tongue out>

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/09/2022 13:53

200 hundred - that's probably less than half a mile

IcakethereforeIam · 14/09/2022 13:53

I'm not an arboriculturist but I know what a tree is!

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/09/2022 13:52

Ok
I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is

IcakethereforeIam · 14/09/2022 13:52

Over 200 posts!

IloveHolby · 14/09/2022 13:52

Thanks for the links @TheClogLady. Watching SG made my blood boil. ALL medications are restricted to those with diagnosed medical issues - drs don’t just hand them out on patients say so! Not in the UK anyway. FFS impeding on the kids’ autonomy.

ickky · 14/09/2022 13:51

How very dare you @ImNotAnExpert The the thread is....... hang on

Redshoeblueshoe · 14/09/2022 13:51

I'm happy to join ickky filling up the thread - but I have to go out in half an hour.
Shall we get started ickky ?

ImNotAnExpert · 14/09/2022 13:51

<pokes a toe in and wiggles it to see what ickky does>

MrsMidClegs · 14/09/2022 13:50

MrsMidClegs · 14/09/2022 13:49

Wouldn't not using their own barristers be absolutely shameful in the case that they lost? Their credibility in their 'community' be dashed...

Wouldn't using, rather

MrsMidClegs · 14/09/2022 13:49

Wouldn't not using their own barristers be absolutely shameful in the case that they lost? Their credibility in their 'community' be dashed...

ickky · 14/09/2022 13:49

@nauticant Post the new thread and I will lay in wait keep this tab open and vigorously chastise anyone who dares make a post and direct them to the new thread. Grin

ickky · 14/09/2022 13:45

Signalbox · 14/09/2022 13:44

Oh do tell!

Yes, don't be shy.

Signalbox · 14/09/2022 13:44

Birdsweepsin · 14/09/2022 13:34

I wonder why they didn't get one of the TRA barristers to take it on?

I know the answer to this one....

Oh do tell!

nauticant · 14/09/2022 13:43

Having a new thread is waiting on @MNHQ agreeing to close this one.

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mateysmum · 14/09/2022 13:41

Did I miss a link to the new thread?

nauticant · 14/09/2022 13:39

I went to look up what "hearding" might mean. One definition was rather appropriate. Another ... not so much.

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TheClogLady · 14/09/2022 13:36

I keep cringing at my spelling mistakes lately - I swear autocorrect works differently here now - I just try and style it out and hope no one notices!

(‘one’ almost became ‘Ken’ a moment ago 🤯 luckily I noticed that one!)

ImNotAnExpert · 14/09/2022 13:34

Splitters, eh? Not another faction.

Birdsweepsin · 14/09/2022 13:34

I wonder why they didn't get one of the TRA barristers to take it on?

I know the answer to this one....

nauticant · 14/09/2022 13:33

I'm not best pleased at having typed "hearding".

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 14/09/2022 13:31

nauticant · 14/09/2022 13:30

I'm waiting on @MNHQ coming back on my question about an early closing of this thread to new messages. If they do, great, if they don't and we have two active threads, it could turn into a hearding cats episode.

Yup, if they won’t close the thread early let’s plough on here rather than split the discussion

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