Do you know any TRAs in real life?

My workplace is soft TRA. My whole sector really, libraries and so very progressive female dominated. Most people have pronouns in signatures, and the standard seems to be set by a few women who have some links to the whole thing, a non-binary female at my last job, at this one a Queer, by which she means lesbian, women who is very involved in local lbgtq+ activism. Most others don't really know details, like issues with prisons, they just follow the lead of these others who they see as knowing the score.

There are only one or two women there who I think have more of a sense of what's really involved in it all.

None of my circle are properly TRA and they don't really have a clue what they are talking about, but a couple believe it's progressive to support gender identity ideology without understanding it. We've had a few clashes but none are friendship-threatening.

So many people whose identity is bound up in … having a special identity. Or bestowing one on others.

Sometimes both simultaneously. Maybe it’s an acquisition of social power thing.

Its upsetting as it is a divisive topic. Our extended family get on extraordinarily well rarely a cross word and politically all the agree. Except this. One sister and dd2 fervently TWAW everyone else is not. We just don’t go there after I was painted a bigot for refusing to concede that people could actually change sex. Much as I want to keep the peace I just know this is not true and I can’t say it.

I saw a new tiktok craze where teens are taking the mick out of "my voice after 2 months on T."

"My voice after 1 year on Nicki Minaj" and "my voice after two months in Alabama/ Russia / Spanish class."

It was both funny and heartwarming that perhaps many youngsters see through it.

two mothers whose identity is heavily bound up in being Mermaids parents.

Nutshell.

Worrying numbers of these women.

Should add, everyone else I know just thinks it's over indulged teenagers who need to give their heads a shake. All the teens I know are full on anti JK.

One woman is horribly TRA, her son is a transwoman. It's not helped by the son having really predatory vibes, he stares whilst in the changing rooms, we share a sport and he plays aggressively towards the women. I also compete with a transman, who is lovely, she yoyos between non binary and trans, but is strangely quite terfy.

Oh and a couple of young professionals I know who are expressionless, humourless, but think they are Green Party feminists. They spend a lot of time berating older women and the bloke goes on about "Tory boys." So he can score points.
The woman is virtually silent.

Yep - one who started harassing me in messages after seeing a friend posting about breastfeeding on one of my posts.
She was demanding to know if I was transphobic because my friend had said "men don't breastfeed."

Her child is non binary. Autistic of course.

I wonder who she will blame when the cards fall.

Oh, I thought of another one, piano teacher of 60, she even believes that transwomen should normally go to women's prisons, does not see any issues at all.

Yes, I do.

A few women I know through a social connection, one is a doctor involved in gender medicine with kids and has a trans child, and a few others just regular people but very much of the view TWAW. One's daughter later transitioned at about 13. But hugely believers.

I know a pleasant gay man in his thirties who includes his pronouns in his email signature. I don’t know any one else IRL who has even hinted that they believe in gender ideology. But I don’t think most people know much about this subject TBH.

Yes, she's a very good friend of mine and it is the only thing we disagree on.
We bonded as students over radical feminist literature, if you can believe it!!

Yes, quite a few. The women I know are all in their mid-late 30s and love Drag Race and politics (Momentum).
In real life they appear very introverted, but on social media their views are very extreme on all topics, very authoritarian.

Yep. A full on self ID TWAW Alison Bailey is a bigot TRA with unfortunately a fair bit of power in their world to enforce it on other ppl. We are no longer friends. I cannot recognise the person she has become over this

Yep, my brother who is in his 40s

full on anarchist SJW cretin

likes to mansplain womanhood

very tiresome

One autistic daughter of a neighbour
Goes out with a "TW" who is over 6' tall, dresses in black jeans and black top, wears a fake rainbow coloured ponytail
Obviously male by looks, voice, gait etc
My neighbour's daughter insisted to me that her boyfriend partner is female and that hormones have turned the penis into a clitoris and that she herself is lesbian for being with this person
I had to make my apologies and leave after a discussion about it

Several years ago before I had ever clicked on a single FWR post on MN, or read anything specific about Trans rights, something came on the TV in the mess room at work, and I casually commented that it was ridicolous Men can't be women, or know what it "feels" like to be a women, one male colleague swiftly told me I wasn't allowed to think that.

I started clicking on FWR threads after that, so you could say that he was responsible for radicalising me!!!

Yes, one friend of 30+ years is full bore TRA, in favour of paediatric transition, untrammelled self ID, the irrelevance of biology and pronouns instead of a handshake.

I just have to stay away from the topic. I can’t bear her on it. I’ve no idea when she got this unhinged and mean. I dare say she thinks the same about me, in regard to whatever she imagines I think, which she doesn’t know because she’s never actually asked, just assumed (and told our mutual friends).

it looks really bad now I write it down

Yes, a deeply misogynistic transman whose wife is allegedly always being assaulted by random women, and two mothers whose identity is heavily bound up in being Mermaids parents.

Yes, I know a few.

My 16yo DD has been captured. I can't change her mind. She is full TWAW/TMAM and AFAB/AMAB. I hope once she experiences them"real world" of the fucking unfairness of being female she might change her tune.

But everyone else thinks it's bollocks. Especially my LGB pals.

I have converted 2 so far.

All those I know, I know through the charity sector. The women I mentioned who identify as queer and are the bullying kind of TRA (through traditional female means of ostracism, “cancelling”, and verbal unpleasantness, not physical violence) are all in relationships with men, mostly married, all mothers.