Composer suspended over tweet backing Rowling’s gender views

I'm very disappointed Joan Smith's article was so short. I was just getting into it and then it ended.

She's totally right, of course, and Will Evans's mealy-mouthed statement contains the buzz words of the wokester - inclusive, community, hurt, do better. Is there an Apology Committee that drafts these things for them to put out?

Spineless man.

"Coercive compassion.
“Be nice or you’re out”

From the Joan Smith article:
unherd.com/thepost/defend-rowling-defenders/

That is spot-on!

"Coercive compassion, be nice or you're out." Brilliant - tells it, as it is!

Of course, it only ever applies to the sacred caste.

So very much coercive, but compassion? No. Fuck all compassion.

Yes, Glinner had a post about her: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-real-revenge-of-the-nerds

Got the name wrong, the name is Harriet.

Had a bit of a look around Twitter and it seems someone called Hannah who moderated for their pianobook product suspended their moderation activty after Christian's tweet and resumed moderation after Christian was sent home to think about doing better. Hannah has pronouns in "her" bio and tweets a lot about trans rights...

Thanks, LK.

In the real world, people disagree with each other all the time and get on with their lives, where they no doubt have plenty of other things to worry about.

Not in the world of gender ideology, however, where being exposed to opposing views is intolerable. Rowling’s name now has such power to hurt, it seems, that people have to be protected from unexpected exposure to it on social media. And another human being finds himself metaphorically in Siberia, just for daring to write the forbidden syllables.

Spot on!

"Will Evans, its chief executive, said: “Christian’s tweet has caused hurt amongst our community. This hurt is understandably being extended as a reflection on Spitfire Audio, its collaborators and its employees. I’m deeply sorry for that; we’ve worked hard to be a beacon for the industry and have a responsibility to do better."

Grovel much? This is abject (and pathetic}.

@SecretTransTwitterEngineer having more Twitter followers is not an endorsement of their actions. People will follow accounts for all sorts of reasons. From what I've read, more followers and posters on social media have been critical of SA, not supportive.

Are there any known GC companies who sell audio?

Interested customers would like to know where to spend their money & it won't be going to companies who don't respect biological sex or the safeguarding of children.

In fact, Spitfire's move gave them about 330 net more followers.

People often follow accounts who are in the middle of a social media storm for updates.

unherd.com/thepost/defend-rowling-defenders/ by Joan Smith

Usual biased r/w media reporting - they neglected to mention the hundreds and hundreds of QRTs and comments from people in music who were dismayed at his comments

It's quite distressing to observe that some people are 'dismayed' about efforts to protect children from harm.

He also made some infantilising comments about people with autism which the Times neglected to mention.

Are you referring to his observation that autistic children were particularly likely to become victims of the trans c**t?

Usual biased r/w media reporting - they neglected to mention the hundreds and hundreds of QRTs and comments from people in music who were dismayed at his comments, the fact that Spitfire said he'd 'agreed to take a break' (which does not sound like a suspension) or the fact that currently there are zero known people who have joined the class action suit.

He also made some infantilising comments about people with autism which the Times neglected to mention.

In fact, Spitfire's move gave them about 330 net more followers.

socialblade.com/twitter/user/spitfireaudio

Lawyers expect about 1,000 families

Yes, they do, I imagine they have some reason for making that estimate, so it's not surprising that people have repeated it.

The fact is, the Times reported it in a misleading headline and so did the Mail, according to OldCrone's link. Glinner could have worded it more clearly or been more cautious but he didn't. Christian Henson isn't really at fault for using the same wording as several news reports.

Link in the quoted post.

If you can't be bothered to RTFT, then perhaps you shouldn't comment. It's not even a long thread.

I tend to go beyond the headline (unlike Graham Linehan), the second paragraph says

Lawyers expect about 1,000 families to join a medical negligence lawsuit alleging vulnerable children have been misdiagnosed and placed on a damaging medical pathway.

Interesting, Rhiannon - I didn't realise who his family were. I just looked him up on Wikipedia and see that "his great-great-grandfather was Sir Ebenezer Howard, founder of the garden city movement and the first garden cities Letchworth and Welwyn Garden City", too.

How can you be removed from a company you’ve founded?

Similar happened to Rosie Kay the dancer, the board dropped her and took control, but she retained most of the rights, so the company was hamstrung. I suggest that unless they come to an agreement the same may happen here.

Christian Henson is the son of the late Nicky Henson & the late Una Stubbs and Una has only been dead a year so the poor guy doesn’t need this disloyal nonsense to deal with from a company he helped create, on top of dealing with his mum’s death.
I hope he knows how much support he has because he is right.

If he can't fact check beyond locating one incorrect headline (which you haven't linked) then he should get out of the game.

Link in the quoted post.

And it's actually 2 headlines in two different papers. This article is also linked in the thread (by TheBiologyStupid at 09:12):
web.archive.org/web/20220827022729/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11101661/Tavistock-transgender-clinic-facing-mass-legal-action-1-000-families.html

If you can't be bothered to RTFT, then perhaps you shouldn't comment. It's not even a long thread.

If he can't fact check beyond locating one incorrect headline (which you haven't linked)

It's linked in the thread, as I said. It's a direct c and p. I agree with pp that this is the kind of petty splitting of hairs which makes people scared to say anything at all. Yes maybe Glinner should have been more circumspect with his wording. It isn't relevant to Christian Henson being unfairly suspended. Blame the Times for their headline.

It's important to get the facts straight otherwise it makes people look stupid and uninformed when they repeat them elsewhere.

I agree and it's one of my frustrations (and probably no coincidence) that some of the most well-known GC voices in the debate aren't the most well-informed, articulate or skilled at persuading... (by which I mean there are plenty of women who can fulfil that role....)

Horses for courses, obviously, but there is lots of emotional rhetoric used on 'both sides' that don't make things any clearer to me.

We always talk about critical thinking and the need for clarity and this ‘1000’ figure is just a nice round figure which should have set alarm bells ringing. And then anyone who repeats it looks like they haven’t given the matter the careful thinking it deserves.

Agreed. Detail matters.

Really interesting reading the comments on Spitfire Audio's recent Instagram posts. I'd say most are genuine customers and users of their business and they are angry about the way Christian has been cancelled silenced and suspended from work. I don't think this would have been the same a year ago. I do feel like the tide is turning.

It does. People are going to repeat what the media reports. And the headline of the Times article linked below was literally:

Tavistock gender clinic ‘to be sued by 1,000 families’

So people can hardly blame Christian Henson or Glinner for repeating it.

Glinner lives this 24/7, he's got a paid subscription substack reporting on GC talking points several times a day and has appeared on television multiple times to discuss this very issue.

If he can't fact check beyond locating one incorrect headline (which you haven't linked) then he should get out of the game.