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JK Rowling on Twitter

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babyjellyfish · 07/09/2022 10:09

twitter.com/guerrero_ramey/status/1567248658004934656

The fallout from this tweet last night was a sight to behold.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 07/09/2022 15:17

Datun · 07/09/2022 12:46

Right, thank you. I've seen the strike series on TV, but I'm not sure which one it's up to.

Which is why I haven't started the books. I don't know where I am with it!

I might start from the beginning. I almost wish I hadn't watched the series now, I'd rather have read the books to be honest.

@Datun I hadn't read any of the series but dived straight into TIBH. I'm loving it, especially the twitter and forum exchanges. I'll go back and start reading the series from the beginning once I've finished this one.
(also, I'm convinced JKR posts on MN)

TheMarzipanDildo · 07/09/2022 15:14

CrossPurposes · 07/09/2022 14:03

The TV series are the bare bones of the books and I don't think having watched them spoils what else the books offer.

This is very true re the tv series. I have a crush on Holiday Grainger though so am happy to watch it anyway!

BordoisAgain · 07/09/2022 15:02

There's a magnificent passage in (I think) Troubled Blood where a female character rails against the fact that women are always blamed when men do wrong.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/09/2022 15:01

BordoisAgain · 07/09/2022 13:40

They mob lost their heads over a description of a serial killer in the 70's possibly wearing a woman's coat one one occasion because transphobia, but never mention the actual trans character in a previous book who is written as a sympathetic character.

It's also very strange that all this supposedly blatant anti- semitism and racism in Harry Potter has only just been noticed since JKR has been convicted of wrongthink 🤔

It's because they didn't read either of the books, and so are totally unaware. All they know is that a couple of journalists claimed that Troubled Blood is transphobic, and they're just parroting that. Clearly, JK has lost zero sales here. None of them could even be bothered to borrow her previous Cormoran Strike books to look for things to be offended about. What they do, is fixate on ways to find the Harry Potter books and even the films problematic.

It's like they haven't read any books since HP. Don't get me wrong, I loved the series myself - I remember counting down the days to the release of each next book! - but there are other books. If JK had taken completely the opposite position to the one she has, and diametrically disagreed with me, I quite simply wouldn't have cared about it to the degree the trans activists do.

In fact, my absolutely favourite author actually does diametrically disagree with GC feminism and tweets a bit about trans rights. I still read her books, and the series is still in pride of place on my bookshelf. And the release date for the next book of hers is in my diary!

yetanotherusernameAgain · 07/09/2022 14:49

@IcakethereforeIam

twitter kicks me out before I can read it properly

If it's the Log-in or Sign-up box that's obliterating the screen, click on 'Log-in' and the next box has a close X in the top left hand corner. Close the Log-in box (without logging in) and you can then read the rest of the Twitter feed.

UnconscionableSnacking · 07/09/2022 14:37

Sorry that was same to buying rather than borrowing so I can reread. Slow typer so cross posted

UnconscionableSnacking · 07/09/2022 14:36

Same, I am rereading IBH already. The mystery (and all the other parts) is fantastic the first time, and then seeing all the intricate plotting is even more enjoyable the second time around now that I know the ending. She's insanely clever.

Greencoatblue · 07/09/2022 14:35

I get them on Audible, Robert Glenister reads them to me. 😀

RedToothBrush · 07/09/2022 14:34

Datun · 07/09/2022 12:24

No I haven't. Is it part of the series? Or is it a one off?

The review I've seen basically says she knows these idiots better than they know themselves and she wrote it before she had a crap load of the trouble she had.

Basically they are acting perfectly in line with her expectations and human observations.

So i doubt her faith in humanity is dented. More that she has faith that she has the measure of these dickhead. And thats reassuring as she has the insight to understand how they are also unrepresentative. Just loudmouthed.

babyjellyfish · 07/09/2022 14:26

I would never borrow her books from a library as I love to re-read them too much!

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heathspeedwell · 07/09/2022 14:25

You won't regret it Datun!

Datun · 07/09/2022 14:24

Greencoatblue · 07/09/2022 14:22

JKR answered someone who asked about the Strike books that it's best to read them in the published order to appreciate the relationship between Cormoran and Robin. She said to maybe buy the first as profits went to a charity (can't remember which one now) but borrow the rest from the library. She went even higher in my estimation if that's even possible.

I've just bought The cuckoos calling!

heathspeedwell · 07/09/2022 14:24

Have to say I think each book in the Strike series is better than the last. I just finished IBH yesterday and my first instinct on completing it was to start reading again from the beginning, which I haven't been so tempted to do with the previous ones.

In terms of the sheer hours of pleasure you can get for spending £25 it's incredibly hard to beat.

Greencoatblue · 07/09/2022 14:22

*That was on Twitter.

Greencoatblue · 07/09/2022 14:22

JKR answered someone who asked about the Strike books that it's best to read them in the published order to appreciate the relationship between Cormoran and Robin. She said to maybe buy the first as profits went to a charity (can't remember which one now) but borrow the rest from the library. She went even higher in my estimation if that's even possible.

Beowulfa · 07/09/2022 14:16

I was mesmerised by Troubled Blood; I particularly love a cold case in crime fiction. Rowling writes about manipulative relationships supremely well.

It must be infuriating for those squealing "transphobe" to see this translated into precisely zero negative effect on her mega-sales.

Datun · 07/09/2022 14:16

CrossPurposes · 07/09/2022 14:03

The TV series are the bare bones of the books and I don't think having watched them spoils what else the books offer.

Great. Thanks for the tip.

FilePhoto · 07/09/2022 14:07

My word she's magnificent isn't she.

The Cuckoo's Calling is next on my reading list.

CrossPurposes · 07/09/2022 14:03

Datun · 07/09/2022 12:46

Right, thank you. I've seen the strike series on TV, but I'm not sure which one it's up to.

Which is why I haven't started the books. I don't know where I am with it!

I might start from the beginning. I almost wish I hadn't watched the series now, I'd rather have read the books to be honest.

The TV series are the bare bones of the books and I don't think having watched them spoils what else the books offer.

babyjellyfish · 07/09/2022 13:44

I mean, if you see a fictional goblin or a plague doctor's mask and you think "Jew!" personally I think it says more about you than it does about anyone else.

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babyjellyfish · 07/09/2022 13:43

@BordoisAgain In the latest book there's a character in the cartoon which is depicted as a sort of beaked creature inspired by a plague doctor's mask and people on Twitter claim that it is an antisemitic trope. I think that was a dig at the people who, 20-odd years after the first film came out, have suddenly decided that the depiction of the Gringotts goblins in the Warner Brothers films and the six pointed star on the floor of Australia House that was used as the location for Gringotts are clear proof that she has always been antisemitic.

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BordoisAgain · 07/09/2022 13:40

They mob lost their heads over a description of a serial killer in the 70's possibly wearing a woman's coat one one occasion because transphobia, but never mention the actual trans character in a previous book who is written as a sympathetic character.

It's also very strange that all this supposedly blatant anti- semitism and racism in Harry Potter has only just been noticed since JKR has been convicted of wrongthink 🤔

babyjellyfish · 07/09/2022 13:40

Theundertaker · 07/09/2022 13:38

Have to admit, IBH is my least favourite of the series so far. There's something very ungrounded about it, which is possibly deliberate when it's such an 'online' book. ----

I enjoyed it but I definitely got the sense that she had some stuff she needed to get off her chest!

I'm hoping the next one sees more of a return to the classic detective fiction she does so well.

My favourite is Lethal White.

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Theundertaker · 07/09/2022 13:38

Have to admit, IBH is my least favourite of the series so far. There's something very ungrounded about it, which is possibly deliberate when it's such an 'online' book. ----

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/09/2022 13:21

RoyalCorgi · 07/09/2022 13:15

You've put it really well. I've read them all and loved each and every one. I read a fair amount of crime fiction, and watch a lot of police procedurals, so I'm very familiar with the genre, but she outclasses the rest. One of the things she does is make you care about the characters - you become really invested in Robin and Cormoran. She also has these fiendishly complicated plots (and in that respect, they are like the Harry Potter books) with lots of red herrings and twists and turns. There is a fair bit of social commentary and plenty of undiluted feminism - but it doesn't feel as if you're being preached at. And then, being JKR there is a lot of humour too. Not laugh out loud, but enough to make you smile.

Two blindingly good summaries!

I am saving ink black heart for my holidays in a couple of weeks, but I am rather jealous of the people who are about to start the whole series from the start!

Cuckoo's Calling and The Silkworm are my favourites so far.

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