Was at Dutch Grand Prix today…

He was booed heavily at Montreal too, not sure if that came across on the cameras.

Max Verstappen is pretty widely disliked. He was booed at the French GP.

@MrsJamin They cheered when Lewis crashed at Spa. Scumbags. And you could hear boos behind Lewis when he had his post-race interview on Sunday and not behind Russell. The different way they treat the Mercedes drivers is very telling. Verstappen clearly doesn't think any differently to his fans as he has never shown any sportsmanship towards Lewis. His father also holds racist views and Verstappen didn't distance himself from them.

And Hamilton fans cheered when Verstappen crashed at Silverstone. No one should be cheering anyone crashing until they're out and walking away unhurt.

And you could hear the boos behind Verstappen when he was being interviewed at Silverstone. Both sets of fans are as bad as each other.

Of course there's rivalry between Hamilton and Verstappen, they're the two giants of this generation and Russell isn't part of that rivalry. But there was plenty of cheering when Russell crashed out of qualifying at Austria, so where's the different treatment?

Jos Verstappen is a piece of shit though, you're right there.

@Ndd135632 Thing that gets me is why the urinals are at the front and you need to walk past them to the toilets.

Because if the cubicles were at the front men would just use them because they're nearest. Human nature and thoughtlessness rather than malice, but another reason why separate toilets are needed.

I expected clean single sex toilets at the French GP. And I got them.

Feel free to stick to your low expectations, fortunately the organizers of the French GP realised that many of us set our sights higher in terms of comfort, cleanliness, dignity and safety.

It’s a ‘we are only providing men’s toilets. You women can just put up with that’ situation.

Urinals in use. Because they’re not merely ornamental. Women aren’t being over sensitive about seeing men stand there holding their penises to urinate.

The very fact there are urinals is a statement that there are biological differences that matter and require different facilities. Otherwise they just wouldn’t provide them. Would they?

Exactly. I don't think men have an inkling how aggressive and repulsive it is for women to see urinals.

the being able to see genitals is clearly implied by the open urinals with men pissing in them. Unless men somehow don’t have to get their penises out to piss in a urinal.

It is interesting that you think the ‘most practical’ toilets are those that make special provision for male anatomy such that people with female anatomy are made to feel uncomfortable and unsafe.

Practical for what, and whose, purposes?

Your sex has everything to do with how you perceive open urinals, that's why I asked.🙄
Where's the "wokism"? Your posts don't make any sense.
Oh and they totally oversold the Bronze level access (ie no seat) so the toilet areas were totally overwhelmed with people at all times.

You weren’t asked your gender, you were asked if you were male or female (ie. your sex)…

Here's another article (in Dutch) from the NOS, which is the Netherlands' equivalent to the BBC:

nos.nl/artikel/2443465-ongewenst-gedrag-bij-formule-1-in-zandvoort-nog-nooit-zo-vernederd-gevoeld

and a screenshot of a relevant paragraph I've run through a translator

Fifteen reports of transgressive behaviour at Dutch Grand Prix

nltimes.nl/2022/09/05/fifteen-reports-transgressive-behavior-dutch-grand-prix

Why does my gender matter?
The original post didn't refer to being able to see genitals... I imagine the most practical toilets were put on given the size of the event and budget. This is wokism at its finest!!

If you’re providing urinals, which are sex-specific because they simply cannot be used by people with female genitalia, then you have very clearly already determined that you need sex-specific toilet facilities.

You should, therefore, be providing separate sex-specific toileting facilities for women too.

It’s interesting how men are still being provided for (sort of) separately, isn’t it?

I expect toilets which shield you from seeing genitals of the opposite sex, no matter how many people are at the event. Are you female or male, @Spanky123 ?

I mean toilets are toilets!!! What do you expect at big mass events with tens of thousands of people in attendance....

They cheered when Lewis crashed at Spa. Scumbags. And you could hear boos behind Lewis when he had his post-race interview on Sunday and not behind Russell. The different way they treat the Mercedes drivers is very telling. Verstappen clearly doesn't think any differently to his fans as he has never shown any sportsmanship towards Lewis. His father also holds racist views and Verstappen didn't distance himself from them.

@MrsJamin yes we avoid the RB "home" races for that reason, even when we've seen some really good deals, it's bad enough seeing the irritating orange flares on the TV.

I was at the Belgian grand Prix. Open urinals everywhere. I wondered whether it was just me that was appalled by the blatant marking out of Men's Territory. One time I looked over to try and spot my family and I literally saw a full penis by accident. It's disgusting and makes you feel like you're in the men's loos literally the whole time. Very alienating to women. (Additionally OP you have my sympathy, the orange army were bad enough at Spa but it was overwhelming at the Dutch GP. I don't think I'd go to another grand Prix where the Dutch fans were the majority again. It's horrible being up close to the sheer blatant racism.)

Why not? If they can do it in France, why can't they do it in the Netherlands?

I like single sex and clean toilets. but you cant go abroad and demand they behave exactly like us.

Been to the Montreal GP a few times. Toilets were fine, relatively clean (far better than Glastonbury) for portaloos. However did get shat on by a seagull when queuing for them, so that was more my concern the rest of the weekend.

@flyingbuttress43 it's the tracks that host the event so depends on the host track not the sport as a whole. I've been to some that have great set ups with separate permanent toilets, and one that was nearly all unisex portaloos (not enough) with no hand washing facilities, that was vile and ruined the whole day for me.