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Trans activist charities receive taxpayers’ money through ‘loophole’- Telegraph

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rogdmum · 03/09/2022 07:57

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/09/02/trans-activist-charities-receive-taxpayers-money-loophole/

Jacob Rees-Mogg is setting up a “ministerial oversight board” to ensure charities don’t cascade money to charities which lobby against govt policies. Gendered Intelligence is specifically named as a charity to have helped trigger this move and Mermaids gets a mention as well.

”Mr Rees-Mogg said: “The grants ministerial oversight board is designed to ensure that taxpayers' money cannot disappear into organisations that push divisive and dangerous agendas. It is an essential principle that there is democratic oversight of how government spends money.”

Mermaids and Gendered Intelligence declined to comment.

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thedancingbear · 03/09/2022 09:27

rogdmum · 03/09/2022 09:09

I don’t think the intention is to stop charities lobbying against the government. The intention seems to be to give the Govt greater control over where their grants ultimately end up. Ie if they have decided that the Govt will no longer give direct grants to (for example) Mermaids, they will want to cut off indirect Govt funding to them as well which currently happens via other charities receiving Govt grant money some of which then ends up at Mermaids.

This is a bit naive I'm afraid. The present government has spent much of the last decade trying to silence charities from saying anything that could be seen as remotely critical of them, or could cast them in a negative light. They have done a total job on any dissenting voices, whether the press, the third sector, or anything else, and this is just another part of that

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/09/2022 09:18

I do share some of the reservations but I think greater oversight of where public money is going is needed.

paying more than £140,000 to Gendered Intelligence for transgender inclusion training over the course of two years.

It's a quite astonishing gravy train, isn't it?

rogdmum · 03/09/2022 09:09

I don’t think the intention is to stop charities lobbying against the government. The intention seems to be to give the Govt greater control over where their grants ultimately end up. Ie if they have decided that the Govt will no longer give direct grants to (for example) Mermaids, they will want to cut off indirect Govt funding to them as well which currently happens via other charities receiving Govt grant money some of which then ends up at Mermaids.

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SierraSapphire · 03/09/2022 09:03

That's what I was going to say JellySaurus. It's a slippery slope to stopping charities campaigning against benefit cuts, the effects of energy bill rises, or better healthcare provision etc. It's proper scrutiny of funding applications and changes in policy that are needed.

ResisterRex · 03/09/2022 09:01

In the end, I can't see how stopping them from lobbying will work. However, taking taxpayers' money to fund any kind of communications or media post might.

Hoardasurass · 03/09/2022 08:59

Better late than never and though I truly loathe mog I suspect that he is the right person for this job

JellySaurus · 03/09/2022 08:41

to ensure charities don’t cascade money to charities which lobby against govt policies.

While I disagree with ideology and consequent harms pushed by the charities mentioned, I think it is very important to allow charities to lobby against government policies. How else can things change? Are only the independently wealthy to be allowed to lobby government?

It's not the lobbying that's wrong, but allowing those charities to change the law and the interpretation of the law, without ensuring that these changes are benign.

LizzieSiddal · 03/09/2022 08:36

FFS what a mess!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/09/2022 08:33

This is has happened throughout this government. Millions of ££ donated by them (usually via politicians and the captured civil service) to countless queer theory activist groups - no due diligence, just funding the self interested adult groups.
Suddenly after 12 bloody years when they've allowed mermaids, stonewall, gendered intelligence etc to wreak havoc in education, the NHS and child safeguarding, the tories wake up and set up another pointless board?

ResisterRex · 03/09/2022 08:18

"In extreme cases, the Government could even demand money is paid back by charities where it is deemed to have been mis-spent.
One of the cases that is understood to have prompted the move involved Sport Englandd_, which receives government grants and National Lottery money, paying more than £140,000 to Gendered Intelligence for transgender inclusion training over the course of two years.
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Neither Gendered Intelligence nor Sport England responded to requests for comment.
Mermaids, another transgender charity, received £10,000 in the 2019-20 financial year from a fund administered by UK Youth, a charity which receives hundreds of thousands of pounds each year in government grants and lottery funding."

The report describes it as "cascading" money. Clearly more oversight is needed of the original sum and what it's spent on.