Hooters sponsor children's football team

I used to live in Nottingham when Hooters had been open a few years and counted several of the girls who worked there at that time as friends. They were recruited by scouts going round the local nightclubs and passing cards to attractive girls. The (male) managers were total power crazed creeps and I saw in the paper reporting this story that one of them is still working there - twenty years on!

One thing I would say is that locally Hooters is seen as a bit of an institution, very much a family restaurant, families go there for lunch and dinners, hold parties there etc. So in Nottingham this sponsorship probably wouldn't be seen as negatively as it is to the wider public and non Nottingham residents.

Gender ideology is regular old fashioned misogyny that’s had a lot of glitter thrown at it.

Anyway, I’m glad this has been stopped because it’s incredibly creepy.

I had the same thought. Post-pandemic many businesses in the hospitality sector are struggling. This has garnered significant free publicity for a business with a niche USP in an otherwise crowded field.

Absolutely ! I went off topic, but completely agree with children being kept away from any of this adult stuff as long as we can!!!!

It doesn’t matter which is worse. What matters is the association of sexualised adult themes with children.

If hooters is wrong, surely the Cabaret girls in a smaller outfit is just as bad. Theyre good looking younger girls (not men) in a bikini and a feather bower. What's the standard ?

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters?

I don’t 🙄. But the fact is no one is desperately trying to identify into an exploitative situation.

I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory

I never said Hooters were proponents of Queer Theory. I said the idea that kids and sexualised society can freely mix is an example of Queer theory. Queer Theory has eroded these boundaries to the extent that people thought this was ok.

By Hooters sponsoring a kids sports team? That's related to trans issues? Are the waitresses trans?

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters? Do you think they just haven't gotten around to it yet or maybe it's just not about them? Or maybe Hooters has already hired their quota but prefers to not to advertise it so as to preserve the illusion of authenticity? Either way, none of this is any of their fault.

I want to say this chain is at least thirty years old, maybe more. I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory. More of a tacky good ole boys' kind of place. Where men are men and girls have, well, hooters. And bring you wings. That attitude has been around forever, trans could disappear tomorrow and we would still be right where we are right now with businesses selling women's objectification.

Why do you want to see TRAs demanding to be employed at Hooters? Do you think they just haven't gotten around to it yet or maybe it's just not about them? Or maybe Hooters has already hired their quota but prefers to not to advertise it so as to preserve the illusion of authenticity? Either way, none of this is any of their fault.

I want to say this chain is at least thirty years old, maybe more. I never considered them to be proponents of queer theory. More of a tacky good ole boys' kind of place. Where men are men and girls have, well, hooters. And bring you wings. That attitude has been around forever, trans could disappear tomorrow and we would still be right where we are right now with businesses selling women's objectification.

Speaking for myself the issue is not that I view all issues related to Feminism through a gender ideology lens but rather precisely the reverse; I view gender ideology through a Feminist lens, one I have developed over 40+ years of reading, discussion and activism.

(And using that particular pair of decidedly unrosy spectacles I can't see any clothes on the Emperor at all..)

Unfortunately the trans agenda and misogyny are inextricably linked.

Maybe it would be better to rename this forum simply Sex and Gender and drop the "Feminism" bit altogether if all issues related to feminism must be viewed through a gender ideology lens.

Anyway, I wasn't the one who placed this topic here. I'm just wondering why a thread about a chain restaurant whose business model is as far away from progressive, woke, trans etc stuff as you can get has to be redirected to the trans debate. Can there be no discussion of regular old fashioned misogyny?

The quote you quoted was most likely a pithy remark pointing out that Hooters most certainly knows what a woman is when it comes to objectifying women on the basis of sex. I don’t see TRAs protesting their local Hooters demanding transwomen be allowed to flaunt their chests there. It’s another example of the sexism of the movement.

And this discussion is right where it should be, because it’s a demonstration of the deliberate erosion of boundaries around sex, and exposing young children to the idea of sex, which is a tenet of Queer Theory underpinning much of what we see here.

Try Feminist Chat if Sex and Gender isn’t your thing. Many who frequent the sex and gender board perceive gender identity ideology to be the biggest current threat to women’s rights and child safeguarding so don’t be surprised if it comes up on many threads on this board relating to diverse issues.

Lol, it's all trans all the time.

Hooters is a much beloved American Breastaurant that I choose not to patronize because I believe that it objectifies women. And you can get wings anywhere. But progressive it is not. I suppose it may have hired a trans person or maybe some of its waitstaff identify as non binary or whatever but it's very problematic for reasons that have nothing to do with trans ideology and a lot to do with more traditional ideas about what an adult human female is and what our role is.

Is it even possible to have any discussions on a so called feminist board about things that involve women without it being redirected to trans issues?

From thread in AIBU...the FA have stepped in and said it's not allowed. Cynical me thinks club and Hooters knew this all along. Both have got way more publicity than they would have done if partnership was more appropriate.

I'm surprised they were allowed to have them as a sponsor. My son's under 10 team weren't allowed to be sponsored by a national hotel chain as they own restaurants which serve alcohol! our local branch of the FA wouldn't allow it.

That's good to know. Someone, somewhere still has at least some sense.

''Elaine Oram, senior safeguarding lead for Nottinghamshire FA, told the BBC a letter had been sent to Burton Joyce FC telling them "they need to cease the sponsorship deal".
In a statement, Nottinghamshire FA said: "The County FA had not been approached by the club seeking sanction for the sponsorship and had we have been, the request would have been declined in accordance with FA rules appertaining to the Kit and Advertising Regulations.
"From being made aware of the sponsorship we have been working with the club to reinforce their understanding of the regulations surrounding such sponsorship.''
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62769416

Just read on the BBC website that the FA have stopped this sponsorship from happening.

Yes, that's exactly what it does.

Food is served exclusively by women wearing very low cut tops, push up bras and ultra short skirts. I mean, how very empowering.

Erm. Yes. Do you think the clientele are interested in the young women who serve them food and beverages as whole, complex and interesting human beings with a full range of thoughts and emotions? Or do you think perhaps they are more concerned about their tits and the woman attached to them is kind of an inconvenience?

I suspect the latter.

It's called Hooters FFS.

Eh? It has boobs in its logo so that “reduces women to a pair of breast”? Okay then…