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Boston Children's Hospital receives bomb threat after being "targeted" by Libs Of Tik Tok

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PeopleRock · 31/08/2022 07:39

www.nbcboston.com/news/local/police-investigate-after-bomb-threat-to-boston-childrens-hospital/2822245/

Libs Of Tik Tok are being unfairly blamed for this after they exposed that the hospital offered 'gender affirming” hysterectomies on minors including 16-year-olds and “younger kids”'

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1562885542806560768?s=19

OP posts:
NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 10:38

The news article from NBC Boston doesn’t mention Children’s National DC.

Right, because we're not talking about them.

That wasn't the most directly-relevant possible LoTT link, as it's moving on to discussion of that hospital, but read its first paragraph and follow the link to the original coverage, which was focussed on BCH:

Last week, I was viciously attacked by the media for raising awareness about Boston Children’s Hospital offering gender-affirming hysterectomies for young girls. Left-wing activists called for me to be banned from social media for drawing attention to a practice Boston Children’s Hospital was publicly advertising. The attacks lasted for a week.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 10:35

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2022 10:05

And again to emphasise, the article is about a bomb threat to Boston Children’s Hospital but the OP has linked a Libs of TikTok post about National Children’s Hospital in Washington D.C.

Completely different hospitals.

Ahh, good lord, apologies, I completely missed that! Thanks.

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2022 10:30

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 10:13

Completely different hospitals.

The post is about both hospitals - about how the Washington hospital changed their website after the reports on BCH, which has been the main hospital I've heard talked about the last week or two regarding the child gender stuff.

The news article from NBC Boston doesn’t mention Children’s National DC.

The Libs of TikTok post only mentions Boston Children’s Hospital in the context of their exposure led to Children’s National changing its website.

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 10:13

Completely different hospitals.

The post is about both hospitals - about how the Washington hospital changed their website after the reports on BCH, which has been the main hospital I've heard talked about the last week or two regarding the child gender stuff.

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2022 10:05

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:56

It's true, I suppose, that there were reports of a bomb threat that happened after libsoftiktock had posted about the hospital.

The implied causal connection is up for debate.

And again to emphasise, the article is about a bomb threat to Boston Children’s Hospital but the OP has linked a Libs of TikTok post about National Children’s Hospital in Washington D.C.

Completely different hospitals.

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 10:03

I don't know how many bomb threats they get a year. Any?

I think it's not unreasonable to infer that their high profile the last few weeks has led to this one, and that they wouldn't have got this one without that profile. Maybe someone else would, if it's just a crazy "I like making bomb threats cos it's fun" person.

Regardless, "you can't talk about X because someone might hear their name and decide to do something crazy" isn't a tenable policy.

Although a lot of authoritarians seem to think it would be. You see the term "stochastic terrorism" being thrown about to describe it.

Always very asymmetrical though. It's "you can't talk about the things I support because someone might do something crazy". Never any qualms about saying the most heinous stuff about things or people they don't like.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:56

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2022 09:54

For clarity, the link in the OP is Libs of TikTok exposing Children’s National Hospital in Washington D.C. with a phone call revealing they do gender affirming hysterectomies on children.

Libs of TikTok was one of many places sharing Boston Children’s Hospital’s own videos that raised awareness of what they do with gender affirming care. This was not unique to Libs of TikTok and many places sharing it were the usual left wing gender critical sources concerned as always.

Two separate hospitals.

It also states in the article:

Police have not described the nature of the threat Tuesday night or any details about what prompted their response.

It wasn't clear if there was a connection to a recent increase in threats to the institution, which Boston Children's Hospital recently warned its staff about. The threats were tied to care the facility offers to transgender youth.

So there is NO current evidence the bomb threat is related to concerns around gender affirming care and there is ZERO evidence and ZERO mention of Libs of TikTok in the NBC Boston article.

So the OP is a load of shit.

It's true, I suppose, that there were reports of a bomb threat that happened after libsoftiktock had posted about the hospital.

The implied causal connection is up for debate.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:54

Well, they are doing it here in the UK. In Scotland, we send 17 yos to England to have their breasts removed.

Blister · 31/08/2022 09:54

Bomb threat of children's hospital 😯
following
gender affirming hysterectomies for u16s😯

The real threat is that there are people willing to ignore either side of the word 'following' depending what suits them.

This is nuts.

NotBadConsidering · 31/08/2022 09:54

For clarity, the link in the OP is Libs of TikTok exposing Children’s National Hospital in Washington D.C. with a phone call revealing they do gender affirming hysterectomies on children.

Libs of TikTok was one of many places sharing Boston Children’s Hospital’s own videos that raised awareness of what they do with gender affirming care. This was not unique to Libs of TikTok and many places sharing it were the usual left wing gender critical sources concerned as always.

Two separate hospitals.

It also states in the article:

Police have not described the nature of the threat Tuesday night or any details about what prompted their response.

It wasn't clear if there was a connection to a recent increase in threats to the institution, which Boston Children's Hospital recently warned its staff about. The threats were tied to care the facility offers to transgender youth.

So there is NO current evidence the bomb threat is related to concerns around gender affirming care and there is ZERO evidence and ZERO mention of Libs of TikTok in the NBC Boston article.

So the OP is a load of shit.

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2022 09:42

Unbelievable

why the heck doctors are cutting of young girls breasts and giving them hysterectomy

to affirm their gender. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

TheKeatingFive · 31/08/2022 09:41

I saw that thread. Absolutely appalling.

Of course if the hospital had engaged in the exact same unethical behavior regarding, say, a new antidepressant, every liberal outlet would have been all over it. But because you're not allowed to question youth gender medicine in polite liberal company, silence.

It's really worrying where we've got to with this. I keep wondering how it happened.

Having said that I agree that when the shit hits the fan in the US it will do so in a big way. Dreadful times coming (though the lawyers will see the silver lining, I'm sure)

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:38

Mastectomies for 15 yos with parental consent.

www.childrenshospital.org/treatments/chest-reconstruction

'The clinicians in the Center for Gender Surgery at Boston Children's Hospital offer chest reconstruction surgery as a gender affirmation procedure to eligible patients who have documented and persistent gender dysphoria and who are over age 18 (or over age 15 with parental consent).'

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:35

Here's the archive of the page.

web.archive.org/web/20220818184945/childrensnational.org/departments/pediatric-gynecology-program

Copy and paste:

'The following services are available for patients between the ages of 0-21:

Gynecology care for the treatment of:

Menstrual concerns

Pelvic pain

Endometriosis

Polycystic ovarian syndrome

Early or delayed puberty

Contraception

Screening for sexually transmitted infections

Routine and emergent surgical management of Polycystic ovarian syndrome, ovarian masses, ovarian torsion, vulvar trauma, hymenal abnormalities and congenital anomalies of the reproductive tract

Fertility preservation counseling and hormone replacement therapy for patients at risk for – or
experiencing – ovarian failure

Gender-affirming medical care and gender-affirming hysterectomy'

The hospital have since tweeted that they won't perform 'gender-affirming hysterectomy' on under 18s.

The recorded phone call suggested they would do that for a 16 year old.

www.libsoftiktok.com/p/audio-childrens-hospital-admits-to?sd=pf&triedSigningIn=true

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 09:33

Those are some serious allegations that don't sound unfounded at all.

But they're all coming from "right-wingers", so it's all just baseless political attacks, so they don't need to be addressed.

Jesse Singal had an exasperated thread the other day about how he'd dissected a study touted to show "reduced suicidality" didn't at all, and the outfit involved felt no need to address it, because no "left-wing" outlets covered it.

twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1563903934942662658

I've now read the full cache of emails Rantz obtained, and I can't overemphasize how much cover was provided to UW by the fact that after my initial article, it was only conservative outlets that reached out about this scandal.

The comms team is explicit about this over and over in their internal emails. Because it's The College Fix and The Daily Caller &c reaching out, they see no need to engage or respond. Lib outlets had no interest in pursuing a story about a hospital distorting suicide research.

Of course if the hospital had engaged in the exact same unethical behavior regarding, say, a new antidepressant, every liberal outlet would have been all over it. But because you're not allowed to question youth gender medicine in polite liberal company, silence.

TheKeatingFive · 31/08/2022 09:25

The bomb threat is of course appalling.

Is the hospital being investigated on the back of this though? Those are some serious allegations that don't sound unfounded at all.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 09:25

www.nbcboston.com/news/local/threats-against-boston-childrens-hospital-leave-doctors-concerned-for-family-safety/2811185/

Boston Children's became the focus of far-right social media accounts, news outlets and bloggers last week after they found informational YouTube videos published by the hospital weeks ago about surgical offerings for transgender patients.

surgical offerings.

Interesting choice of phrase.

AlisonDonut · 31/08/2022 09:23

When America properly [redacted - rhymes with squeaks], the response will be much more aggressive just due to the much more aggressive nature of America.

Helleofabore · 31/08/2022 09:21

I guess it is the same old story then.

A twitter account who seeks to expose what is happening is held to blame for someone who threatens violence to an organisation who is doing what the twitter account has thrown a spotlight on.

However, because that twitter account exposed what the organisation was downplaying it is the twitter account that was wrong. And therefore we all should remain silent.

inkjet · 31/08/2022 09:19

From the phonecall it sounded like they’d possibly done it on girls younger than 16 too, it wasn’t 100% clear but she said they’d had all ages.

FunnyTalks · 31/08/2022 08:38

deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

I'm rubbish at links but hopefully this takes you to a handy venn diagram of where religious conservatives, feminists and genderists all intersect.

Just getting it in here before tedious posts conflating feminism with rights wing conservatives pop up.

As PP mentioned, of the 3, feminists have the least power (due to the fact genderists and right wing conservatives both prioritise males) so in the US it seems as if the choice is between which flavour misogynists you want in charge.

Bomb threats are awful.

So is sterilising gay /non neurotypical children.

This is why we need to be able to discuss this issue freely, normally, rationally.

deeperthanallroses · 31/08/2022 08:35

oh and bomb threats are never ever ok, to be clear!!

deeperthanallroses · 31/08/2022 08:35

The us is crazy. As is Canada I should say based on a tweet I saw today saying you can’t use the word tribe unless you’re indigenous. Both sides are crazy, I think I’m scared off the entire topic there.
re Bch they may have only gone to 17 not 18 (I’m not saying that’s ok) could the younger stuff only be for dsd? It’s so hard to tell what’s actually going on.

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 08:19

We're doing that thing where they're flipping between "that didn't happen, and if it did, it wasn't that bad".

And the right-wingers can see it, and they're not impressed. The situation is not being calmed.

A couple of recent Matt Walsh tweets:

Libs of TikTok called a hospital to ask if they perform "gender-affirming" hysterectomies on children. The first person she talked to said yes. Another employee agreed. The hospitals own website confirmed it. And yet the media accuses LoTT of "misinformation." Absolute insanity.


Your response to adolescent girls having their breasts chopped off is "their body, their choice"? Are you as insane as this comment makes you appear or are you just pretending so that nobody calls you transphobic?

Hoardasurass · 31/08/2022 08:18

@ArabellaScott yes that's what she's saying and Haa the evidence