Apparently mumsnet is next....

Just for the record, here is the archive of the 'consent accident' thread

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2019.11.22-010933/twitter.com/lizthegrey/status/1197657127701110786" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Totally normal tweets

Alternatively, search on archive.is for this URL:
https://twitter.com/lizthegrey/status/1197657127701110786

Proof, if it was needed, that the programmer socks wearers would rather we did not take a closer look at the grim reality.

Boys, we work with you, we are your mother, your colleagues, the adults all around you.

The farms has already done the job. Taking it down makes no difference, why, because exhibitionism is intrinsic to your identity isn't it?

You want us to look at you.

You need us to look.

We are looking. It's not going well.

And case in point this is why it was an error on my part to reply to this acrimonious thread filled with misinfo rather than the other one. It's re-opened this old micro-debate. I wish their were some way for me to delete my posts. I'll see if I can ping a mod.

In the meantime, whilst knowing it adds confusion, I've re-posted my reply to the right thread here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine?page=27&reply=126010002 because simply that other thread is far superior.

I did look for it, but the title is "Antipodean Fruit Growers 2" and I just didn't find it.

Going to beg people to carry on the debate over there rather than here.

Okay. It's fine and large on my computer. When I upload it to MN it gets shrunk for some reason. I don't know how to fix it.

Link to the statement here: https://i.postimg.cc/xdysgWFr/kiwifarms-statement.png

But honestly, I've made a significant mistake in adding my reply to this thread and not the other. I think I'm going to add my reply there and maybe ask people to ignore this one. There doesn't seem to be a way for me to delete my posts here.

I take it you don't have a Twitter account either then

That's weird. Let me try again. Maybe MN forums has compressed it.

But I've double messed up. I found there was a sequel thread to the original one which this would be much better for: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

I'm wondering if there's any way to move my posts across or just repost them there. If there were a way of deleting my posts here, I would do so. That thread is much better.

Anyway, second go at attaching the statement.

Do you have a clearer image of the screenshot? I cant read a single word.

I just re-read the earlier posts in this thread. I'd have added my update to the older thread here on the farms here (the one linked on the first page) but that appears to have expired due to age as I couldn't reply to it. So I figured here would be better than making a whole new thread. But I now realise how much misinformation there is in this thread. There's a lot of "repeat a lie often enough..." stuff where the Farms is concerned. So just to be clear, they don't dox people - they archive public information, the "caused three suicides" thing was a lie and debunked also. I'd link you to the very thorough and clear rebuttal on the Farms regarding this matter but until the Farms is back up, I can't. :(

Ok, I get it now or at least why a contingent of MNers seems happy to support it.

It goes after pedos and dangerous trans activists with a fair amount of intelligence and due diligence and isn't cowed into pursuing 'justice' to the furthest ends and that the support of free speech however unpleasant that might be is worth defending.

Furthermore porn sites, Facebook and Twitter are big industrial monoliths above the fray and picking on a lonely barely noticed dark corner of the internet is about proportionality.

That said I have no desire to go onto the site (found it in the end) because it is indeed unpleasant, life's too short and I can barely understand the language that they use. But I shall back away from my earlier statements and leave you to it.

I'm working through the 40-page MN mega thread to get up to speed seems a better use of time than going on safari elsewhere.

Well that's very impressive! And totally believable. Well done MargaritPie. 😁

Where is it then Google seems to have hidden it for me.

Browser history (or memory) not working? You did say you'd been there before...

Anyway, sucks to have censors blocking you, doesn't it?

Yeah, Google seem to be trying to hide it.

DuckDuckGo gives me at least one real link. Both DuckDuckGo and Bing give me the status Telegram page that's used for outages, which will then get you there.

Where is it then Google seems to have hidden it for me.

I’ll do it

its back up vera so tell us the thread and we’ll have a look…we won’t linger

anyway it's down now so even if I wanted to back up my assertion that's out of the window

Um, I hate to be the one to break this to you...

I've made it quite clear I spend some time a long while ago having a look around and anyway it's down now so even if I wanted to back up my assertion that's out of the window. I seem to remember threads piling onto some hapless transexual who had some sort of web presence and the glee they took in doxing and coming up with voluminous 'evidence of their transgressions whatever they may be and wishing them dead. It left me feeling dirty tbh.

Well s’cuse us if we don’t take random ladynameplusnumbers99’s word for it.

🙄

Lol “rationalwiki.”

They’re the ones who posted a fake screenshot in their entry on Ovarit, claiming that women there were sharing menstrual blood recipes. Spanish Inquisition levels of “rational.”

Whatever if you want to swim in their sewer be my guest and no Mumsnet is in no danger of being cancelled not in a month of Sundays.

Fill yer boots with enough information to just say ...naaahhh...

I'm asking you which thread on KF you particularly thought was bad. Or are you just reading what other people are saying about it?

Surely no-one would come onto another forum to say what a forum is like without having actually read it for themselves?

Do you understand the difference between opposing attempts to censor the Internet, and agreeing with every single thing ever posted on Kiwi Farms?

It seems from your posts like you don’t! But it’s a fairly crucial distinction to get your head around if you’re determined to participate in the discussion about Internet censorship. Maybe you should do a bit of research into why free speech has historically been considered such an important cornerstone of democracy and why defending unpleasant speech is a necessary part of defending free speech.

We’ve already discussed this for around 1500 posts over the last couple of weeks.

⏰⏰⏰⏰⏰

The hill to die on is Freedom of Expression.

it’s a fundamental human right that is being eroded via the internet.

I don’t want to live in a world where you can be hauled off to Gulag for shit talking Putin on an Internet forum.

Kiwi Farms is a bit like The Wall in Game of Thrones. You don’t have to want to live there but one day you could be very glad it exists.

Fill yer boots with enough information to just say ...naaahhh...

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms