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Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

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YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 17:33

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 17:32

They had to leave fo their own safety whilst a man in a dress is screaming in a woman's face to 'fuck off'

But he wasn't removed 🙄

IKR, imagine removing the aggressor rather than the victims. Wild.

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 17:32

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 27/08/2022 17:00

None of the footage I've seen has suggested that the police removed them because they were trying to stop the parade.

In one clip, the police said it was for the lesbians own safety. . Don't know why they wanted to remove the victims

They had to leave fo their own safety whilst a man in a dress is screaming in a woman's face to 'fuck off'

But he wasn't removed 🙄

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 27/08/2022 17:00

picklemewalnuts · 27/08/2022 16:11

We're the 'get the L out' group trying to walk with the pride parade (as they should have been free to do), to stand at the side of the parade (as they should have been free to do), or trying to block the parade (which the police probably had to prevent happening)?

It's an awful look, whichever. I'd understand the police's attempt to do the latter, though.

None of the footage I've seen has suggested that the police removed them because they were trying to stop the parade.

In one clip, the police said it was for the lesbians own safety. . Don't know why they wanted to remove the victims

J0y · 27/08/2022 16:14

badbaduncle · 27/08/2022 15:00

Angry men abuse gay women at pride and the police remove the lesbians. It's surreal.

Would make you sick.

picklemewalnuts · 27/08/2022 16:11

We're the 'get the L out' group trying to walk with the pride parade (as they should have been free to do), to stand at the side of the parade (as they should have been free to do), or trying to block the parade (which the police probably had to prevent happening)?

It's an awful look, whichever. I'd understand the police's attempt to do the latter, though.

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 16:10

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

But they're all WOMEN in those situations. Not men. The man thing is black and white. Man =No lesbian

MissingLesbianSpaces · 27/08/2022 15:54

The only acceptable lesbian today is either one with a cock or one willing to suck that cock. You are witnessing the promotion of corrective rape and those that enthusiastically support it

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 27/08/2022 15:51

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

I've never known of the police removing lesbians from a gay march for those definitions of lesbian, though. Only when the definition seems to include men do the piluce seem so invested.

JustFlying · 27/08/2022 15:39

Why are my posts disappearing without even a talk guideline deletion message?

Are posts just now being removed on the sly?

MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 27/08/2022 15:37

I was looking at another thread and came across these links to articles by Dr. Em about lesbians getting shat on at Pride events in the 70's for failing to pander...

uncommongroundmedia.com/what-was-happening-before-just-be-nice-feminism-part-vi-pride-parade-1972/#

uncommongroundmedia.com/what-was-happening-before-just-be-nice-feminism-part-vii-pride-parade-1973/

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 27/08/2022 15:35

It is like the Undeclared War on here sometimes.

Why let actual events and opinions matter when there is an agenda to be pushed? obvious? Aye. It is.

There is no pride to be had in pushing women to accept phallus.

No pride at all.

JustFlying · 27/08/2022 15:34

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 15:11

Rape culture at its finest on display today.

“You won’t have sex with me because I have a penis, you’re a transphobic, have sex with me”

Do one. Since when do women have to give a reason for refusing to have sex with someone?

And then when we’re forced to explain ourselves - because MTF are just men with a lifetime of entitlement, privilege and aggression behind them - we still get abused.

Bear in mind that a certain subset of the angriest TW couldn't get sex with women as men.

They're now trying to get sex with women (lesbians) as women and are still being denied. It's absolutely rape culture.

Hopefully they'll give up soonish and go T4T aka prison gay. This seems to be the outcome for most TW.

JustFlying · 27/08/2022 15:29

Wheresthebeach · 27/08/2022 14:34

Pride has been taken over by MRA

It really has. Very angry men. And considering the increasing incel to TW pipeline this is not surprising.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:19

Indeed artichoke - obvious derailing is obvious

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 15:17

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

26 page plus thread on this live now. This doesn't need rehashing here for the umpteenth homophobic time.

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 15:16

It is quite essentially a belief that a biological female has no right walking around with biology that is not sexually serving a male.

That females should not be allowed to have and define and openly declare themselves as having a sexuality that is of no use to a male and defies males in refusing to serve them. Such females should be punished, shunned, rejected. Shamed. There is no room for them in the rainbow of penis-serving diversity and inclusion.

Come and see the extremist misogyny and homophobia inherent in the system. Help, help, we're being oppressed.

and no one fucking cares because we're only female

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:16

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:12

How is lesbians being same sex attracted “a political point of view” rather than you know a fact which evetone knew & understood till about 5 minutes ago

Because lesbian is always a political word as to who counts. Do political lesbians count? Do women who have had relationships with men and now are with women count as lesbians? What about women still married to men who say they are lesbians?
These debates happened long before the transgender issue. It has always been a politically disputed term.

Georgeskitchen · 27/08/2022 15:12

It's South Wales Police

'nuff said

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:12

How is lesbians being same sex attracted “a political point of view” rather than you know a fact which evetone knew & understood till about 5 minutes ago

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 15:11

Rape culture at its finest on display today.

“You won’t have sex with me because I have a penis, you’re a transphobic, have sex with me”

Do one. Since when do women have to give a reason for refusing to have sex with someone?

And then when we’re forced to explain ourselves - because MTF are just men with a lifetime of entitlement, privilege and aggression behind them - we still get abused.

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:09

I agree with the political point of view, but of course it is a political point of view.

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 15:09

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:58

No, you're right. It's because they're lesbians who insist on their right to define their identities for themselves, to not allow the word 'lesbian' to be redefined to suit the arrogance of colonising males and to insist on exploring their own sexual desires and setting setting their own sexual boundaries. HTH.

👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:08

Hahaha “lesbians with a particular political view point about what the word lesbian means” fuck me just listen to yourself

”vegans with a particular optical view point about what the word vegan means”

lesbians don’t want to fuck people with penises

Vegans don’t eat meat

you don’t get to arbitrarily redefine words and then abuse the people defined by that word for not agreeing with their unwanted redefining

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 15:04

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:01

Agreed it is because they are lesbians with a particular political point of view about what the word lesbian means. At least one has a placard.
There will be plenty of other lesbians on the march.

A particular political point of view?

No. The very definition of a lesbian is someone who is same sex attracted.

If you were born with a penis you are not a woman and therefore cannot be a lesbian.
There is NOTHING political about that. It is basic biology.

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 15:01

CompleteGinasaur · 27/08/2022 14:58

No, you're right. It's because they're lesbians who insist on their right to define their identities for themselves, to not allow the word 'lesbian' to be redefined to suit the arrogance of colonising males and to insist on exploring their own sexual desires and setting setting their own sexual boundaries. HTH.

Agreed it is because they are lesbians with a particular political point of view about what the word lesbian means. At least one has a placard.
There will be plenty of other lesbians on the march.