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Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

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gatehouseoffleet · 27/08/2022 21:40

I feel for the police because no matter what they did, they would have been wrong

The police should protect the more vulnerable party. Not the loudest and most entitled. It's not difficult for them at all.

gatehouseoffleet · 27/08/2022 21:39

antelopevalley · 27/08/2022 14:46

It is NOT because they are lesbians.

Of course it is. It's because they are making what should be an extremely obvious point - that some women are attracted to the same sex. Not "gender".

It also shows that the police are useless. First the Sarah Everard vigil nonsense, now this.

ArabellaScott · 27/08/2022 21:36

knittingaddict · 27/08/2022 18:11

It's just an extension of how abused women are always treated. If you are an abused woman it is you (and sometimes your children) that have to move out and into a refuge or find a safe place to be. If the abused man finds you it is you that has to uproot the family and start again. It is rarely the men who suffer the consequences.

This is very personal to me this week and I have had enough. I am so angry with it all.

Aye, might is right.

Solidarity with Get the L Out. This is showing up Pride for exactly what it's become.

ArabellaScott · 27/08/2022 21:29

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/08/2022 15:08

Hahaha “lesbians with a particular political view point about what the word lesbian means” fuck me just listen to yourself

”vegans with a particular optical view point about what the word vegan means”

lesbians don’t want to fuck people with penises

Vegans don’t eat meat

you don’t get to arbitrarily redefine words and then abuse the people defined by that word for not agreeing with their unwanted redefining

100%

RoyalCorgi · 27/08/2022 21:02

Has this been covered anywhere? I expected to see it on Mail Online but it's not there.

Soubriquet · 27/08/2022 20:15

I feel for the police because no matter what they did, they would have been wrong.

Lesbians are proud women who love other women. Penises are not involved in a lesbian sex life

Transwomen seem to really hate that, and with the world as it is, they seem to get the last word in don’t they?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/08/2022 20:08

You can see the problem with some DCC fawning in a video over Birmingham Pride and saying how grateful she was that the police had been invited to attend in uniform. That is the wrong dynamic.

twitter.com/vjardinewmp/status/1562422392973979651?s=21&t=koqNP8eyxKRc8Wk59qSJ1Q

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TheSummerySilveryPussycat · 27/08/2022 19:58

I bet one reason the police did not want to interact with the aggressors was because they literally did not know how to address them.

I wonder how much the fact that the aggressors had clearly gone through male puberty affected things. It may be that the police saw a possibility of more harm to the lesbians than to the aggressors, if things got out of hand, because they were physically weaker than the others, and they took the route they thought would minimise further repercussions.

I still think the right thing to do was to deal with the aggressors, not the victims.

thirstyformore · 27/08/2022 19:38

I was in Manchester today so popped along to see some of the Pride parade. There seemed to be a lot of focus on the "T". And it felt a very male focussed event.

CottonSock · 27/08/2022 19:25

They stopped the march. 100%

Artichokeleaves · 27/08/2022 19:25

Farmageddon · 27/08/2022 18:07

Exactly, why are the women being punished for men's behaviour? Same old shit really.

The police are all wearing rainbow badges and are fully signed up to a partisan political belief system that is homophobic and misogynistic, and to the very ideology that has carried out a take on Pride and taken the words and the freedoms away from the people who set it up and were using it, and is now working on forcing those people to convert or go underground or be removed by their police enforcers.

Welcome to the UK 2022, where the police are the personal enforcers of a homophobic political lobby rather than providing impartial law enforcement without fear or favour. Yes, it's bloody shameful. Yes there needs to be a major inquiry into how so many government funded bodies with a fundamental duty of impartiality were so utterly bloody stupid and dozy as to have permitted this capture.

2Rebecca · 27/08/2022 19:24

I doubt that they stopped the march they just wanted to be in it and the self appointed organisers wanted to control who could and couldn't be in it and control who went where

IcakethereforeIam · 27/08/2022 19:20

I hope there's an official complaint about the Police handling of this for all the good it will do. Could the bloke still be arrested, I imagine he wouldn't be difficult to identify.

EdiJester said they'd put chevrons on the pink triangle at Manchester pride, but I've not been able to find an example.

AlwaysCocaColaz · 27/08/2022 19:19

CottonSock · 27/08/2022 19:14

What I witnessed from about 10 meters away is that a very small group of about 10 people stopped a march of thousands. Who thenwaited with patience in the boiling sun to be allowed to continue.

Which is ridiculous.

They should have been allowed to fully participate as founders of the movement.

CottonSock · 27/08/2022 19:14

What I witnessed from about 10 meters away is that a very small group of about 10 people stopped a march of thousands. Who thenwaited with patience in the boiling sun to be allowed to continue.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 27/08/2022 18:20

Funny that the legally protected characteristic of sexual orientation is always completely ignored when it comes lesbians.

Why is it a 'hate crime' to upset man with a gender identity but not a 'hate crime' for a man to be abusive to women because they are lesbians?

knittingaddict · 27/08/2022 18:11

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 17:33

IKR, imagine removing the aggressor rather than the victims. Wild.

It's just an extension of how abused women are always treated. If you are an abused woman it is you (and sometimes your children) that have to move out and into a refuge or find a safe place to be. If the abused man finds you it is you that has to uproot the family and start again. It is rarely the men who suffer the consequences.

This is very personal to me this week and I have had enough. I am so angry with it all.

Farmageddon · 27/08/2022 18:07

RichardOsmansXraySpecs · 27/08/2022 17:50

What on earth is going on in this country? I just can't quite believe the police think it's acceptable to remove the victims rather than the perpetrator.
Make it make sense.

Exactly, why are the women being punished for men's behaviour? Same old shit really.

XiXimXerJinping · 27/08/2022 18:02

Is that awesome Liane being yelled at?

RichardOsmansXraySpecs · 27/08/2022 17:50

What on earth is going on in this country? I just can't quite believe the police think it's acceptable to remove the victims rather than the perpetrator.
Make it make sense.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/08/2022 17:43

Apologies I thought you were being sarcastic and implying that the lesbians were the aggressors.

YellowPlumbob · 27/08/2022 17:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/08/2022 17:35

IKR, imagine removing the aggressor rather than the victims. Wild.

What did they do then? Sounds like you have some info.

Made the victims leave whilst the man was allowed to stay and scream abuse.

Imnobody4 · 27/08/2022 17:39

I thought Pride was about protest.
Peter Tatchell says
“The idea spread to the UK, and a group of us in the Gay Liberation Front in London came up with the idea of holding a celebratory and defiant “Gay Pride” march, to challenge queer invisibility and the prevailing view that we should be ashamed of our homosexuality. The ethos of Pride was born.”
Ruth Smeeth's blog
Pride was never designed to be apolitical – it was a statement. It was a demand for public acceptance at a time when being LGBT+ wasn’t just difficult – it was almost impossible to be openly queer in public. It was to a personal platform for those who were being silenced in their own communities. It embodied our collective basic right to free expression and used that right in such a way that it began a journey of changing hearts and minds.

www.indexoncensorship.org/2022/06/why-we-all-need-to-be-angelic-troublemakers/?s=09
Of course none of this applies to Lesbians does it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/08/2022 17:35

IKR, imagine removing the aggressor rather than the victims. Wild.

What did they do then? Sounds like you have some info.