Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

Don't just run away. Tell us what you think Pride is about and why you took your children to it? Do you have any idea of the background of Pride? Do you have any awareness of the stigma that LGB suffered only 25 or so years ago? Were you aware that we had fewer human rights than straight people here in the the UK? That we could be sacked for being LGB? That LGB teachers lived in fear under Section 28 in case anyone accused them of promoting homosexuality? That under the old Goods and Services Act it was lawful for bars, restaurants, hotels etc to turn LGB people away because they were LGB? I'm presuming you're too young to have lived through AIDS and have had people terrified of any kind of contact with LGB people?

And now what started as a protest is just a nice rainbow-coloured family day out for you? Do you have any idea how offensive that attitude is? Please do a bit of research and think more carefully about what you're exposing your children to.

I really didn't see much kinks.
I didn't see any dildo shops.
I stuck to the family area as I felt this was well segregated and more appropriate. I would not have stayed long in the main area.
My kids were not wearing rainbows and wings. Although they love rainbows.
My kids are open minded but I stick to what is appropriate for their age.
I am glad you got some publicity for your protest and that the police had a calm response.

I was handed out rainbow god leaflets, but the group didn't name themselves.

OK my last post here.

But that doesn't explain why there are so many compliant women. Why are so many women on the side of men who want to cosplay at being women rather than standing up for their own rights?

Lots of women seem to believe their worth is is wrapped up male approval.

Also, if you want to be seen to be on the 'right' side of any successful movement, a male sexual rights movement has goods odds, certainly better than anything to do with women boundaries.

I think the penis banner was uncalled for at a family event. Assume the police agreed as it was soon put away.

Strangely, the police didn't object to the wording on any banner. The police officer assigned to engage me in conversation said they were sympathetic to our views and that as lesbians we should be permitted to march. All our banners were put away after 15 minutes when we'd achieved what we wanted to achieve and took the communal decision to leave.

you didn't just try to march in front did you? You stopped the march. Especially the lady in a mobilty scooter who didn't move with the others.

That was Jenni S on Dwain, was she there with her husband?

Are you not embarrassed that a march meant to advocate for same-sex attracted people has been taken over by heterosexual men with kinks?

Do you think that men displaying their kinks is acceptable at Pride? Or, given you took your children there, do you think it shouldn't be allowed?

Completely agree with you.

Penis on a banner = no!

Penis on a lesbian = ok!

Crazy world we live in 🙃

Dear oh dear. I did wonder if that might have been the case. That picture from a few years back of the child patting the 'pup' has stayed with me as an example of what happens when parents try to be so open-minded that their brains fall out.

What kind of nutjobbery have we reached when it's highly progressive to take your kids to a parade to celebrate adult babies and bare bummed men in chaps and explain about lovely liberal tolerance while at the same time showing them that those females over there who are same sex attracted and say so and say no to having sex with males regardless of what those males want to be validated as by them, (and that's the one and only issue really) and are protesting this, are wrong and must be shunned and shamed and excluded for their bad sexual habits?

At this point we might as well be honest that it's Pride In My Penis marching and be done with it. Mens sexual rights movement.

Pride is a protest, not a family day out. If the word penis on a banner offends you then maybe stay home with your precious kids.

There might have been one or two angry people (I didn't see it) but generally there was samba music and people waiting to continue.

Oh it's fine if lesbians feel excluded as long as you get your samba music and family fun 🙄 We all know there's worse at the average pride than penis banners.

Yes, we stopped the march. That was the intention. To disrupt and to get our point made. We did tell the police that we'd march on in front but they wouldn't let us. The Pride organisers obviously wouldn't have let us march in the parade.

Were you the couple with the children in rainbow fairy wings and rainbow leggings? You've clearly talked about sexual differences and sexuality. You've brought your children to a parade where they could see all kinds of kink on display, including gay men in chaps and bare bums, men dressed as babies, men in drag. Did you take them through the marketplace at the end of the parade? How did you explain all the dildos and harnesses and stuff on sale there to the children?

Pride has always been about sex and sexuality. It was never for children (and I've been attending since the late 1980s, when you could be sacked for being LGB). Anyone who takes children to it and is then offended by the word penis needs to stop and think a bit deeper.

Thank you for standing up for Lesbians ❤️

I've made a formal complaint about that BBC News article. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62701100

Nobody reading that who hadn't seen the various tweets and other social media reports would have any idea what the protestors were protesting about. The natural assumption would be that the protestors were Westboro Baptist types or similar, and the casual reader would think 'Good for the police' and move on.

@CardiffPridedisrupter you didn't just try to march in front did you? You stopped the march. Especially the lady in a mobilty scooter who didn't move with the others.
Not everyone is seeing the whole picture.

There might have been one or two angry people (I didn't see it) but generally there was samba music and people waiting to continue. I was stood right next to you with my very young children. I think the penis banner was uncalled for at a family event. Assume the police agreed as it was soon put away.

I hope you enjoyed the rest of your day. Did you go to the event site? I thought it was excellent and well planned for families.

What Pride are you talking about? Pride happens in many different Cities and Towns.
I went to our local one and it certainly was not a kink fest.

@OldCrone I think this has everything to do with the 3rd Wave of feminism repudiating all the brilliant hard theoretical and practical work of the 2nd Wave.

The 3rd Wave was pro-porn, femininity, slut-walks, etc., basically man-appeasing feminism. They did nothing to build on the practical gains of the 2nd Wave and detached their daughters from knowing and respecting their feminist foremothers. Frankly I could see this day coming and I'm not surprised.

The idea of the future = progress is false. Women need to constantly work to enforce our rights, for Lesbians to be respected. Right now women are going through 70s style consciousness-raising and grass-roots organizing and that's good.

I'm a lesbian and married to a bisexual woman, we don't go to pride anymore. Pride isn't for women unfortunately, it's been taken over by men and is now pretty much just a kinkfest.

I remember studying the English witch trials of the 17th century and while the vast majority of the accused were women, women made up 50% of the accusers as well. why did they do that knowing what happened to women guilty of witchcraft? It goes back to who has power & what happens to those who are deemed ti go against the accepted behaviour of the community or push back

basically men have the power & women who publicly don’t go along with TWAW are abused & harassed. Far easier to go along with TWAW & not get abused

But that doesn't explain why there are so many compliant women. Why are so many women on the side of men who want to cosplay at being women rather than standing up for their own rights?

Because it's harder to stand up against the crowd, and be called ugly, a bigot, a terf or a boring prude or old fashioned or whatever.

Can I just say that if anyone would like to turn their good wishes and support into a something material, a brief spell of gardening for the LGB Alliance would be greatly appreciated. Their allotment is looking a little better but still needs watering.

But that doesn't explain why there are so many compliant women. Why are so many women on the side of men who want to cosplay at being women rather than standing up for their own rights?

Has anyone ever managed to get an explanation from these handmaidens about why they have such a hatred of other women and why they are happy to see their own rights eroded?

So sorry this was your experience @CardiffPridedisrupter The world seems to be hurling itself backwards at a rapid rate of knots.

And I don't just refer to MTF male people, but many other male people too.