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Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

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IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 10:30

@antelopevalley what's wrong with the banners?

MegansRun · 30/08/2022 10:26

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antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 10:14

They were not only marching, they were carrying banners about getting the L out.

Snoodsy · 30/08/2022 10:12

When women are doing nothing wrong but marching at a planned Pride event, gets the “Sorry Madam, we don’t want to upset the men, so for your safety you better leave.”

INSTEAD of removing the ignorant loudmouth fool.

ALTHOUGH they WERE told they could trail along the very butt end of the parade, where nobody could see them. ALL WOMEN AT THE BACK OF THE BUS I mean parade.

please.

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 09:43

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. It's "Happily brainwashed and joyfully part of the rainbow family! 🏳️‍🌈"

I've got another comic strip for this one. The proper lesbian is the woman inside the bar here.

The woman who's just been thrown out of the lesbian bar for refusing the male's advances is not a proper lesbian.

Courtesy of Tatsuya Ishida's Sinfest strip yesterday.

This current series of strips starts here.

Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride
Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 09:34

And anyone wanting to hear from Angela herself about what ‘Get the L out’ did and didn’t do and what they are protesting for, GB news had her on too.

twitter.com/gbnews/status/1563977823957749772?s=21&t=6Bwkeu6wroLJrrW3Cs5klQ

With Andrew Doyle. Another gay man and part of the LGB community .

Surprising how if you get away from Pride events, there are many LGB people telling the world that they support homosexuals who don’t agree with their words being changed. But of course, there is no evidence to support the ‘majority LGB’ people agree with any particular view. It has never been surveyed by a fully independent organisation.

If it had been, we would have had those links posted as soon as the results were published.

As it is, it is sometimes like Butterworth is being channeled on these threads.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 09:25

Just posting this link from GB News last night. Another Butterworth special.

from 1:10.

This seriously followed how the posts on here run. The dishonesty, the pivoting, the sparple, throwing around of transphobic and homophobic, the eventual deterioration into name calling, all by someone who declared to ‘know’ what the majority believe. And on GB News, Butterworth dismissing a gay man who was saying ‘hang on, so many of us now don’t go to these events it is ridiculous to say that ‘you know’ when you clearly don’t’. (Me paraphrasing the host).

Remarkable how Butterworth absolutely nails the extreme activist posts on this board.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 08:30

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

Another clear post.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 08:21

AgnestaVipers · 30/08/2022 01:49

Talking to one of these TRAs is like being in a chapter of Alice in Wonderland. They have a completely distorted view of reality.

It's really very simple.

There are two sexes.

Lesbian isn't an identity. It's a sexuality. It's being a woman who is same sex attracted.

Any woman willing to have sex with someone male is bisexual or straight.

Lesbians won't sleep with trans identified males. This doesn't make them transphobic. It makes them lesbians.

Men or women calling lesbians transphobic for not sleeping with men are part of rape culture.

Finally, the LGBT 'community' doesn't exist. There are just those drawn to current LGBT+ ideology, and those who aren't.

I am a lesbian who has come to despise the rainbow flag and the people who call themselves part of this community. I see them as uncritical or brainwashed or malignant or a mixture of all three. Many of my gay and lesbian friends feel the same.

So the people who you think are in the community are only a small part of it, and you all think alike. You're part of a groupthink that many of us find dangerous and pitiful.

Great post, Agnesta.

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

Hearach15 · 29/08/2022 21:52

When have I ever said lesbians should "be willing to have sex with males?" 😂

No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 04:59

Because ’they don't want to be associated with the G or the B either’. bares little resemblance to what Get the L out is protesting or wants.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 04:57

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AgnestaVipers · 30/08/2022 01:49

Talking to one of these TRAs is like being in a chapter of Alice in Wonderland. They have a completely distorted view of reality.

It's really very simple.

There are two sexes.

Lesbian isn't an identity. It's a sexuality. It's being a woman who is same sex attracted.

Any woman willing to have sex with someone male is bisexual or straight.

Lesbians won't sleep with trans identified males. This doesn't make them transphobic. It makes them lesbians.

Men or women calling lesbians transphobic for not sleeping with men are part of rape culture.

Finally, the LGBT 'community' doesn't exist. There are just those drawn to current LGBT+ ideology, and those who aren't.

I am a lesbian who has come to despise the rainbow flag and the people who call themselves part of this community. I see them as uncritical or brainwashed or malignant or a mixture of all three. Many of my gay and lesbian friends feel the same.

So the people who you think are in the community are only a small part of it, and you all think alike. You're part of a groupthink that many of us find dangerous and pitiful.

Kleinandmoo · 30/08/2022 00:14

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Caroffee · 29/08/2022 23:32

It's looking like LGBT will split into two groups. L v G&T. Men vs women. The oldest storyline in the book.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2022 23:22

Uh! I wanna know what transphobia is! <pout>

Aside from everything Grin

Helleofabore · 29/08/2022 23:20

GertrudeKerfuffle · 29/08/2022 23:14

Indeed @Datun I doubt Hearach can do any better than that.

It could be one of the only truthful posts that you can expect in this instance though.

It is great to see it confirmed.

GertrudeKerfuffle · 29/08/2022 23:14

Datun · 29/08/2022 23:12

On what grounds do you think you can redefine 'woman' and 'lesbian'?

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. It's

"Happily brainwashed and joyfully part of the rainbow family! 🏳️‍🌈"

Indeed @Datun I doubt Hearach can do any better than that.

Datun · 29/08/2022 23:12

On what grounds do you think you can redefine 'woman' and 'lesbian'?

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. It's

"Happily brainwashed and joyfully part of the rainbow family! 🏳️‍🌈"

GertrudeKerfuffle · 29/08/2022 22:45

"It is in fact transphobes who are trying to change the definition of the word lesbian. Only today people on this thread have called lesbians who date trans women "bisexual". On what grounds do they get to police other peoples' identities?"

This only makes sense if you believe TWAW in that they have actually changed sex, since a lesbian is a woman who is sexual attracted to other women. And that's just not true. No matter how much you keep insisting, no one can change sex.

On what grounds do you think you can redefine 'woman' and 'lesbian'?

IcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2022 22:34

What's your definition of transphobia, can we narrow it down a smidge?

Hearach15 · 29/08/2022 22:30

justasking111 · 29/08/2022 22:30

Just watched a segment on the news Benjamin Butterworth talking about the Cardiff event. It descended into a slanging match. It's just depressing

Yes, transphobia is very depressing.

justasking111 · 29/08/2022 22:30

Just watched a segment on the news Benjamin Butterworth talking about the Cardiff event. It descended into a slanging match. It's just depressing

IcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2022 22:27

So what are these 'trans rights' that we're, apparently so against. What 'trans-rights' were Get the L Out against? I thought they were defining themselves as same sex attracted lesbians, why is that so hateful?

Helleofabore · 29/08/2022 22:21

Hearach15 · 29/08/2022 22:19

"How would me being any kind of ‘expert’ in LGB matters change the way you post?"

If you were an expert you wouldn't post such nonsense and I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.

How have you ‘corrected’ me exactly?

Really hearache. Is this dishonesty all you have?

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