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Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride

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ZombieMumEB · 27/08/2022 14:01

This is horrifying. Women (lesbians) told by police they are going to be removed because abuse is being hurled at these women.

Police do nothing about the person shouting the abuse.

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1563490240912044033

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WandaWomblesaurus · 02/09/2022 02:53

And furries. Must never forget the furries. Men dressed as puppies.
Oh and babies. Big bearded babies.
And wannabe YA writers who fanfic Twilight and hate JKR have worked out that they can cosplay the Q part.
Did I miss anyone?

With all the pronouns and navel gazing they won't notice the door shutting quietly as the L escapes.

WandaWomblesaurus · 02/09/2022 02:35

"The LGBT community won't split. A tiny number of transphobes have left and no one is missing them."

That's because it's now full of spicy straights, men with fetishes and 12 year old girls.

LaughingPriest · 01/09/2022 23:44

Only a misogynist would find it funny, or someone desperately trying to please misogynists.

Absolutely. Just weird that the statement someone wants to make about their political leanings can't help also being gross.

Hearach15 · 01/09/2022 23:26

Caroffee · 29/08/2022 23:32

It's looking like LGBT will split into two groups. L v G&T. Men vs women. The oldest storyline in the book.

The LGBT community won't split. A tiny number of transphobes have left and no one is missing them.

Helleofabore · 31/08/2022 12:21

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 12:14

Christ, I thought of Owen Jones and the 'will suck dick for socialism' T-shirt photo and thoughtlessly went to google for a picture ... Blush

That 'will suck dick for socialism' t-shirt was horrific. Only a misogynist would find it funny, or someone desperately trying to please misogynists.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 12:15

Do not recommend. Am stopping googling things now.

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 12:14

Christ, I thought of Owen Jones and the 'will suck dick for socialism' T-shirt photo and thoughtlessly went to google for a picture ... Blush

ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 12:12

That T shirt baffles me. What the fuck has someone's political stance got to do with their sexuality? It's mad. Absolutely mad.

NecessaryScene · 31/08/2022 12:05

From boodleoops:

twitter.com/boodleoops/status/1564607914639335433

Can’t stop thinking about the fact that “Labour” is now a valid sexual orientation but “lesbian” apparently is not

Never kissed a Tory? Welcome straight woman, join in our parade! Never kissed a penis? GET THE FUCK OUT, BIGOT

Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride
Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride
Lesbians not welcome at Gay Pride
ArabellaScott · 31/08/2022 11:53

Crikey, had to google that one. Confused

FreudayNight · 31/08/2022 11:19

Artichokeleaves · 28/08/2022 13:06

I'd forgotten that being a lesbian and refusing to contemplate intimate relationships with men is the most radical and provocative position a woman can take and one that a lot of straight women have only superficial tolerance of.

Nailed it.

So much of this comes down to deeply ingrained misogyny, entrenched in culture, entrenched in people, that

  • a space serving only females and not useful to males is unjustifiable, selfish, not right, wasted space that should be redirected
  • a female who is in possession of female biology and gatekeeping it from being accessed for sexual service of males is unjustifiable, selfish, not right, and is either wilfully defiant and needs conquering by the righteous, or is messed up beyond retrieval and should just be shunned or got rid of.

We haven't moved on in any way from the large crowds of women who would gather in crowds to shout in churches to shame the wicked sinners, confiscate children off the feckless to ship them to Australia and Canada, gather at the witch trials - there's a lot to be assessed in how females when their only power is to serve male interests get right behind that service, but frankly the enjoyment of a good old shout and shame and mob mentality in the name of whatever righteousness or fad is currently passing through really is a big human thing.

It's the hypocrisy of this lot shouting 'love!' and 'inclusion!' as they scream violence and hate at homosexual women for having resisted the hostile takeover and forced rebranding of homosexuality that sticks in my craw. If you're going to hate on females for resisting cock then own it and be bloody honest about it and stop claiming you cover yourself in rainbows because you 'love gay people'.

In effect, it’s a particicution. It’s driven by the same rage.

Pluvia · 31/08/2022 08:05

Yes, I'm seeing a lot more men — both gay and straight — posting on this subject. Men have mothers, wives, sisters, girlfriends, daughters. They know how predatory and scary some men are. I'm seeing an increasing number of men suggesting that men have to guarantee the safety of TWs in men's loos, but admitting that there's nothing they can do about the huge number of porn-addled blokes who get a thrill out of out invading women's space.

justasking111 · 30/08/2022 18:46

A lot of men are now aware of this agenda the ripples of knowledge have reached their ears. I sent my OH the footage of the policeman in Cardiff as I've sent him other bits gleaned from here. He's firmly in the my body my choice camp.

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 16:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:43

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

Exactly. If you can't see that antelopevalley, you're not an ally to gay people and lesbians.

Quite.

We are back to: if you must do something a bit dirty and shameful like insist on being homosexual and not be open to sex based on someone's personal self definition of sex instead of your perception of the reality of their biological sex.... then at least do it behind closed doors and don't talk about it in polite society.

Particularly at Gay Pride.

ffs.

Be a pro lesbian/gay/homosexual
A neolesbian or neosexual
Pan sexual
Transbian
Have words you can celebrate! Have identities alongside. Have all the identities, flags and all.

Just don't colonise other populations and identities and stomp the indiginous peoples and their own identities and cultures and languages and beliefs out of existence on the grounds that they're backward and stupid and your way is obviously much more progressive and they'd be much better doing what you say, in your way and forgetting their backwardness. Or just being pushed out of sight of decent people.

Possibly onto reservations.

Pluvia · 30/08/2022 16:29

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 11:30

What then?

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

In a fucking Pride march of all places...

At least it wasn't in Pride month.

Is this for real? Haven't read the full thread so no idea how it ended up with this — but tell me it's ironic, Necessary Scene. Please.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:44

"Pride is a protest"

"No, not that kind of protest!"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/08/2022 15:43

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

Exactly. If you can't see that antelopevalley, you're not an ally to gay people and lesbians.

Datun · 30/08/2022 12:08

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

But that's exactly what they were banned for, marching lesbians.

That's exactly what those women are, what they say they are, and what they want to remain as.

The issue, is how pride has been colonised and captured by heterosexual males, in order to exclude the very people it was designed to advocate for.

The fact that people recognise that lesbians saying they are lesbian is a problem, is extraordinary! In a march, the entire purpose of which was to promote lesbianism (homosexuality in general).

If you understand that a march designed for lesbians is now having a problem with lesbianism, there's no way you can call it 'disingenuous'. Disgusting, scandalous, homophobic, discriminatory, prejudicial and bigoted, yes. Disingenuous? no.

Caroffee · 30/08/2022 11:51

Artichokeleaves · 30/08/2022 08:20

No I'm not playing silly games with you about whether or not male people stop being male people when they define their gender identity as something different. You can believe whatever you like, and call it homosexuality: what I require is that you equally respect in turn that those of us who don't share this belief and actually are sex based exclusively homosexual don't get pushed out and trampled and told (as you are doing here) that actual homosexuals are a stupid minority who are wrong and have no right to be treated with any respect.

I'm still grinning at being told I have little idea as a homosexual female about homosexuality because that really says it all.

I have, for decades, managed to be exclusively attracted to and exclusively have my sexual relationships with biologically adult females. I managed this without your 'education' or any confusion about who I was attracted to, what it was called, finding other females like me and happily just cracking on with it. Homosexual people do not need training, educating and sorting out by you, because it's not a political position of right think, it's just basic human instinct.

Play your gender games all you like, call yourselves bright new exciting names, take over Pride and every LGBT space and place with your new and improved and superior sexuality types, have a lovely time and I will wish you well. Just don't take over and rebrand me, and demand that I pretend what is not true and that I can't be homosexual unless you deign to teach me how to do it properly because you can't have a space of your own or an identity of your own, you have to mug me for mine.

The arrogance is off the scale.

@Artichokeleaves Extremely well-said!

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 11:33

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

There ‘type’ of protest?

So what was on the banners? If you are seriously calling their protest out as being an issue, at least have the honesty to explain exactly why, in your mind, they were a problem.

Not hedging around. Just some honest explanation.

NecessaryScene · 30/08/2022 11:30

What then?

Saying they don't do penis, of course. They don't have to do penis, but for fuck's sake, they shouldn't be proud of it and start waving banners about it!

In a fucking Pride march of all places...

At least it wasn't in Pride month.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 11:22

So not the banners?

What then?

antelopevalley · 30/08/2022 11:11

I am saying it is disingenuous to say they were banned for being marching lesbians. They were banned for their type of protest.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/08/2022 10:47

There are loads of banners at Pride, do you want to ban...erm...banners?

Or just these particular ones. If it's this, then what's wrong with them?

Helleofabore · 30/08/2022 10:35

They were not only marching, they were carrying banners about getting the L out.

Excellent. A good old fashioned protest then! Probably from some of the lesbians who were actively involved in starting these type of events in the first place.

Taking it back to the grass roots!

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