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Woman thrown out of female loo because of man!

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OhSusannah · 21/08/2022 13:16

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Helleofabore · 21/08/2022 22:38

I am sorry you experienced that OP. I am sure that it must be very worrying to think that the Police have been contacted.

thank you though, for standing up for women and girls.

Cailleach1 · 21/08/2022 22:06

Now responses to google reviews are calling women who want safety and dignity bigots 'cos they won't submit to intimidation if they call out a man. Also, the responses are stating that it is a hate crime. That is false, isn't it? People who acknowledged biological reality (and gave short shrift to anti science, ideological evangelicalism) were tormented by the police with 'non-crime hate incidents', weren't they? Not a crime at all. Did a Judge not say that the police hounding someone for that was unlawful?

It just sounds like a nightmare. Also, would you feel any issues you had would now be taken seriously?

It is certainly a time for gobshites to expose themselves as woman hating, witchfinder generals. Do you think there is a nouveau, pronoun set for the people who do that?

Ozza246 · 21/08/2022 21:59

OhSusannah · 21/08/2022 21:49

I wasn't staying on the campsite so I have no idea about the shower facilities. I only went there for lunch - which we didn't get.

And I am full of admiration for you for standing up to him. It must have been terrifying, not just to question the man but then to be shouted at by the manager. It's totally wrong and the world really has gone mad.

Ozza246 · 21/08/2022 21:56

I have devised a handy test for transwomen who are unsure about which bathroom to use because they don't like the men's. It's called the Izzard Conundrum.
'Would you pee alongside Eddie Izzard?'
'Yes''
'But Eddie has boy mode and a penis so surely you can pee in the men's, alongside other people with a penis?'
'Ok, then, no, I would not pee alongside EI'.'
'What?! Eddie is a transwoman so if you would not pee alongside her you are a bigoted transphobe. I no longer care whether you feel safe. You can pee alongside men whether you like it or not!'

Sorry, a little sarcastic, but Eddie appears to have been an early adopter of the 'shouting at women who question a man in the female loo' brigade!

OhSusannah · 21/08/2022 21:49

I wasn't staying on the campsite so I have no idea about the shower facilities. I only went there for lunch - which we didn't get.

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IcakethereforeIam · 21/08/2022 20:02

Does he just use the women's toilets? Is there a shower block?

EdithStourton · 21/08/2022 19:59

Well, there's a campsite to avoid.

OhSusannah · 21/08/2022 19:34

It was me. I'm a long time user (15 years+) I can't believe we are at this stage. Being scared of standing up to a bloody man in the toilets saying he is a woman. What do we do next? I'm scared to say I'm scared, but I am scared.

You know who is letting us down? Women. The "be kind" women. Traitors to their children and women.

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ScrollingLeaves · 21/08/2022 18:28

Poor woman. What a horrible thing to happen to her. The manager should never have spoken to her that way.

I have noticed that some (single sex) Ladies’ have male cleaners. I have never liked it. But sometimes there is a sign to explain this will be the practice.

Could this be a mixture of using a male cleaner plus that male cleaner saying they are a woman?

GCBookseller · 21/08/2022 17:46

I think - if I had a husband - I’d identify as male for the duration of my toilet visit, rather than go to the ladies and have to potentially deal with an unfamiliar man, and be told it’s a hate crime for me to be uncomfortable with it.

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 21/08/2022 16:21

Men's toilets seem to be the safer ones now, as all the creepy males are invading the women's facilities now. Shame they stink so badly.

Artichokeleaves · 21/08/2022 16:20

Females excluded from their only space, so that male people can have their choosy choices from all the spaces.

Women's space excludes women to provide access to men.

Glad we're now seeing all this openly being discussed front and centre.

Shall we now get onto the obvious bloody underlying thing here which is the foundational belief that being born male confers a value and importance over being born female, and this is male supremacism?

And that this is very obviously based on a belief in a binary sex class system that sees sex over any gender identity and has no difficulty knowing the hierarchy without any need to check in any way? Which means that no one believes male people are ever anything but male and removes any justification for them invading female spaces and blocking females from any resources at all?

Clymene · 21/08/2022 16:11

I saw the hermaphrodite post. (I apologise for using that horrible word). The owner said that the employee was one and thats why he was allowed to use the women's toilets. And the woman who complained had really upset him.

BlueWhat · 21/08/2022 16:05

Cooooo ooooo Daily Mail!! Over here 👋

Please may we have an article and a picture of the sad faced transwoman and manager outside the female toilet.

They can tell your readers about the big, bad bigoted woman who doesn't want someone with a penis in a female only space.

I do love a good Daily Mail "sad face".

EsmaCannonball · 21/08/2022 16:03

So hope the owner gets done for misgendering.

beastlyslumber · 21/08/2022 16:02

That's just pure misogyny. Fucking hell. Hopefully that's their whole business down the shitter because what woman wants to go camping and have to share bathroom facilities with a bunch of blokes.

VestofAbsurdity · 21/08/2022 15:58

And if TW don't want to use male toilets because they're afraid of men how do they not understand that women don't want to share toilets with TW/men for the same reasons???

Their brains won't compute that because of how fucking obvious and correct it it is and you'll get a load of guff about TW are women, not threatening, different, special, most oppressed yada yada yada.

Helleofabore · 21/08/2022 15:57

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/08/2022 13:55

The manager's an idiot. Campsites are where you allow your children greater freedom - maybe going to the shop unescorted for the first time or the toilets. Parents need to be able to risk assess. Would I allow my 6 / 8 /10 year old daughter to go into mixed sex toilets alone? Unlikely. Would I allow her into a women's toilet alone - probably.
Would I take my family to a campsite where the owner gaslights and openly bullies women? Nope.

Yes. I don't see mixed sex toilets and shower blocks as being remotely 'family friendly.'

And the act of reporting questioning a male who was in the female toilet as a 'hate crime' at a family friendly camping site has a definite chilling effect.

I suspect that this will backfire on this camp ground.

BlueWhat · 21/08/2022 15:57

Good grief the owner is reporting everyone for hate crimes! Thames Valley Police have their work cut out for them!

Woman thrown out of female loo because of man!
BlodynGwyn · 21/08/2022 15:53

Misstache · 21/08/2022 15:39

I’m concerned with him telling her “not to go in the stall.” Was he taking a giant poo or was he like masturbating in there or something? A woman might tell you there’s no toilet paper in a stall or the lock is broken, but I’ve never had a woman just be like “wooooo don’t go in THERE.” Gross.

I thought the same thing. He'd stunk it up.

I've been told by my sons and husband that men will joke with each other if they've made the toilet stink. I have never heard a woman say anything like that in my life.

He was a man being a man.

BlodynGwyn · 21/08/2022 15:48

Two men intimidated a woman inside a 'female only' space. Men have truly won.

If we complain, let alone try to stop them from watching us shower or use the toilet, then we are guilty of a hate crime.

When they hid in the shrubbery waiting on women and girls to flash their genitals to, we could report them - or chase them off. They don't have to rough it anymore out in the rain and cold - they can just watch us legally in comfort.

It's open season on women again.

Staynow · 21/08/2022 15:45

VestofAbsurdity · 21/08/2022 15:10

I wonder if all those TW who insist on using women's toilets because they are 'scared' in the mens and those who have made alterations to their appearance/taken hormones/had surgery/dress as they think women should dress are going to be happy that men clearly being and looking like men will be joining them in there, where's the much vaunted safety and validation now?

And if TW don't want to use male toilets because they're afraid of men how do they not understand that women don't want to share toilets with TW/men for the same reasons???

Misstache · 21/08/2022 15:39

I’m concerned with him telling her “not to go in the stall.” Was he taking a giant poo or was he like masturbating in there or something? A woman might tell you there’s no toilet paper in a stall or the lock is broken, but I’ve never had a woman just be like “wooooo don’t go in THERE.” Gross.

Andromachehadabadday · 21/08/2022 15:29

I see the owners have said this person ‘biologically identifies as female’, they have no clue what they are talking about. How does a male identify ‘biologically as female’

They also made a post referring to ‘hermaphrodites’ and then deleted it. I assume they were trying the ‘but hermaphrodites!’ As a rebuttal, because they have no common sense.

EarthSight · 21/08/2022 15:18

Have you sign the sign? Cringe. Comes across like it was put there by a certain type of man in his 50s or 60s thinking it was humorous, same type of man who calls his wife 'THE Wife'. 🙄