Woman thrown out of female loo because of man!

I posted this video on another thread too.
It is satirical, but to the point. I don’t think it has been posted here already.
The clips are not made up.

“In the Ladies”

m.youtube.com/watch?v=zwUe7-4-_TY

Good post @Artichokeleaves if only there was a snappy way of putting it.

Exactly! There is no answer to this except the logical conclusion of upholding single sex spaces. But it doesn't suit the ideology so they close down all argument with claims of bigotry and transphobia which are totally exaggerated but very unpleasant to be on the receiving end.

It's usually one straight forward question.

"What do you plan to do with the female people who now can't use any space so the male people can take their preferred choice from all the spaces?"

You then work through the answers:

1. This doesn't happen.

Response: Provide the evidence.

2. Well those females need to get over their trauma/disability/abandon on the spot their faith, culture, family and roots on the spot because nasty religion I don't agree with and share in personally so have no respect for in a rather unpleasant racist/colonial/white supremacist kind of a way

Response: Are you expecting the male people to get over their trauma in using male spaces? Or in fact to get over or tolerate anything at all? No? I wonder why your unequal sex based expectations here?

3. Privilege!!

Response: So females should suffer through some kind of political thought of original sin? You are happy that the sex class of female should be disadvantaged and some females excluded (most of them from vulnerable groups) so that this small group of male people can have everything they want?

So in fact you're seeing this in an entirely sex based way, where there are two sex classes and the one has a birth right of being the priority and the birth right of the other is to sacrifice and care for the other? How is this not sexist as fuck? How can you go on pretending to believe that these male people are anything but male since your actions are screaming that you believe in fixed sex classes and everyone operating on the basis of them?

Why can there not be answers that work for everyone instead of male people get exactly what they want at the expense of female people with very unequal sexist standards of care and consideration? Why can male people not be expected to compromise and have some reciprocal care and respect for female inclusion and access? Is inclusion only for TQ+ male people?

At that point they tend to either start realising there are issues here, or they take the mask off and disintegrate into full blown zealotry which is usually unfortunately based in quite a lot of internalised misogyny in women, sexism, racism and homophobia which this agenda provides a naice fig leaf for the expression of.

I think a couple of my good friends are handmaideny, and yet feminist on other issues. I'm sure it's a case of mountain climbing yet to happen.

I think women need to call out handmaidens too in that instance.

I wouldn't be too sure what to say though. Something like 'this is a single sex space, you're entitled to your opinion but you don't speak for the majority of women & girls who feel uncomfortable sharing this space with males.'

Respect to you and your daughter, DrDinosaur.

Men's female handmaidens are certainly a problem; but then again, that's how lots of girls and women are raised. I certainly was. Put men first, always

Took a lightbulb moment, a peaking.

@DrDinosaur Was this another man confused about where he should take a young girl to the restroom or was he in there alone?

I also saw a man in the women’s loos yesterday - first time ever. And challenged him, along with my daughter. He was about to back down and leave until a third woman arrived, and told him to carry on (despite clearly seeing a male, as she kept calling him ‘he’). She then called me ‘a disgusting human being’.
I am now more determined to call out men any time I see them cross women’s boundaries. I may not be able to stop them, I may get thrown out, but I will let them know I object to their presence.

Dear oh dear....

Blindly led by women wanting rights. Tut tut tut, it's shocking.

And what on earth is the 'shame' bit about? Someone is really feeling the lack of puritanism, witch burning and pitchfork mobs, they're born out of their time.

Has anyone pointed out to this summerchild that inclusion isn't actually TQ+ male specific?

"This is a hate crime and now a police matter. You are blindly being led by a bigot. You clearly do not know the facts and you should hold your head in shame by getting involved in something you know nothing about!"

Copy of management's reply to bad Google reviews.

@Mumsnut - I think that idea has legs!

We need a website , do t we, where we can send in our ‘reviews’ of local businesses and assign them stars for female-friendly facilities.

Or not

At least, I presume it is the owner/manager who is responding to the google reviews. If someone else, I presume the owner/manager would delete what appears to be defamation and apologise to the op.

And owners/manager are stating it no less than a literal 'crime' to say he isn't. Business is saying op is a bigot and committed a hate crime. Not an alleged crime or even the non-crime, hate incident. Is that defamation as they are posting that repeatedly? Men's wishes trump women, even in places where women may be more vulnerable, or discomfited. Chappies come first.

At least you didn't leave any money with them @OhSusannah . Hope you had a nice lunch elsewhere.

He's a woman?!

Just sent the article link to the Daily Mail, the more daylight this gets, the better.

Other women support men in this to give themselves some sort of standing with the chauvinists. It's called inverse sexism and is one of the most selfish types of behaviour to witness. Sadly, it's everywhere.

Are you sure the he/she was a man though? Some lesbian's dress quite butch and can be mistaken for a man.

But there was a case of a trans woman in a women's prison. Still had working male parts got a woman pregnant.

What a wankery manager.

Absolutely insane

OhSusannah · Today 19:34
It was me. I'm a long time user (15 years+) I can't believe we are at this stage. Being scared of standing up to a bloody man in the toilets saying he is a woman. What do we do next? I'm scared to say I'm scared, but I am scared.

You know who is letting us down? Women. The "be kind" women. Traitors to their children and women.

I am very sorry this happened, and I think you were brave on everyone’s behalf who cares. I hope the word will spread not to go there.

Yes, women are letting other women down. It is difficult to understand why.

I was at the Cropredy music festival a few years ago and very male men were quite openly using the women's toilet blocks. (Cleaner, less queues).

It's becoming a thing. Was at a local campsite last year and again totally male presenting man was using the female block while the men's was being cleaned.

Absolutely, well done OP for standing up to these bullies.

Your complaint about him (and I do so love the manager's saying 'he's a woman') isn't a hate crime because no crime was committed.

On the positive side, the incident took place in Surrey where your Police & Crime Commissioner is the lovely Lisa Townsend who has no time for this shit.