Edinburgh Fringe comic spat on and shunned by colleagues as a 'transphobe' for show about women

Wow, what a performer!

Thanks for the intro to Jordan Grey. Funny, with a bit of bite and substance.

It only takes one clip to see the difference between the two.

but they're both very willing to make themselves the butt of the joke. And that's very endearing and it gets their humour and their points across.

Yes, exactly.

Jordan seems quite charismatic, Jen Ives...not so much.

Thanks for the Jordan Gray suggestion! I enjoyed the clips.

There's something Jordan Gray has in common with Elaine Miller - their comedy styles are totally different but they're both very willing to make themselves the butt of the joke. And that's very endearing and it gets their humour and their points across.

I just had a brief lesson to Jen Ives. The problem is they're just not funny. It's not even the material. They just can't deliver it. There's a lot of truth in the saying it's the way you tell 'em.

That's a good way of putting it.

I might find bits of the comedy a tad uncomfortable and near the knuckle, but I did laugh. I find lots of comedy uncomfortable, it's natural. Jordan Gray seems refreshingly self aware and sees the abundant humour potential of both gender identity and how people react to it, and clearly has more talent in their little finger than Ives, with no need to emotionally blackmail people into supporting them.

I wonder how Jordan is treated by the extreme activists. Jordan says the quiet bits out loud and connects with a wide audience in doing so.

must be well annoying for Jen Ives - there you are, trying to pass off your failed Edinburgh show as ‘transphobia’ and then another trans comedian gets nominated for a shelf-load of awards,

Yeah, you're gonna have a hard time being a trans comedian, when someone like Jordan has gone all in.

Accused of not chasing a shoplifter a shoplifter "I'm an ex man, not one of the X-men!"

Taking a leak "...don't you just hate it when you get splashback on your tits".

His colleague turning on him in the car "can we please just get to work before you accuse me of another hate crime".

😁

woah. Jordan sings too.

must be well annoying for Jen Ives - there you are, trying to pass off your failed Edinburgh show as ‘transphobia’ and then another trans comedian gets nominated for a shelf-load of awards, has an ITV sitcom commissioned, a radio 4 contract awarded, a load of 5 star press reviews and even the evil tervern Mumsnetters are complimentary.

that would well do your head in, wouldn’t it? And we weren’t even really talking about trans comedians until Dadjoke started wanging on about Ives.

What’s next? A a photo of Elaine and Jordan sharing a bottle of Prosecco? Jordan wins ‘Best Show of the Fringe’ and gives the trophy to Elaine? Elaine is cast as a side character in Jordan’s sitcom? 😆

oh, now I've seen the clip of the toilets 🤣

That Jordan Gray is very funny.

I'd be shocked if they didn't totally get where women are coming from and acted accordingly in terms of sex segregation.

I’ve just seen that Jordan Gray’s Edinburgh show is called ‘Is it a Bird?’ 🙊🤣

A bit of knowing self deprecation in comedy is great for making connections and giving people permission to laugh. It’s a nothing thing I associate with Victoria Wood.

Obviously nothing really compares to the genius of Victoria Wood but the supermarket scenes put me in mind of Dinnerladies.

I've not heard of Jordan Gray before but those clips are funny. I will see if I can find that sitcom, I like comedy set in supermarkets for some reason 😁

I liked all the knowing little micro- aggressions - the clip in the car and whether it was offensive to Jordan and the person of diminutive stature for the driver to pull their seat forward to give them leg room- yes it was if he did but also offensive if he didn't.

The visual gag of Jordan scanning phallic vegetables is great!

I know this nonsense has already been addressed, but also, it's simply not true. Of course the Issue is about vulvas and vaginas.

Transactivists can't actually eliminate vulvas and vaginas, but they absolutely try and eliminate the fact that they only belong to women.

So when a woman who is not only gloriously pro-women, but is uniquely placed to talk about female anatomy, dares to go public, she has to be stopped.

Because Elaine isn't just talking about female biology. She is unequivocally and determinedly connecting it to the only people who have it, women.

All the talk of pelvic floor exercises, menopause symptoms, both familiar and taboo, would be like a foreign language to most men. Something that is and always will be beyond their experience. Because, of course, it is not at all the sort of slant on female anatomy that has them glued to the screen on porn hub

It highlights the fact that women's biology is simply not something that can be detached from women, in order that the word woman can mean something else.

And it must really rankle that she's bloody funny too. All this esoteric stuff about women's unique biology, that's also making them laugh out loud?

Unforgivable.

Didn't make me laugh but very engaging. Thanks for the link.

@TheLassWiADelicateAir Thanks, Jordan's quite funny!

Jordan Gray has 6 short videos on YouTube. I laughed out loud several times.

Meanwhile a trans comedian is up for a Fringe comedy award. Jordan Gray. Theres a clip online & it’s not bad. People were laughing.

How odd that the evil transphobic master plot to pay £12 per seat to not laugh only targeted the unfunny trans comedians!

I think a lot of people thought that from the beginning.