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Edinburgh Fringe comic spat on and shunned by colleagues as a 'transphobe' for show about women

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JanieAllen · 17/08/2022 13:33

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/edinburgh-fringe-comic-spat-shunned-27762754

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LavenderfortheBees · 17/08/2022 19:24

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You realise people are spitting at her in the street right?

Fenlandia · 17/08/2022 19:15

Bindayagain · 17/08/2022 19:09

I'd like to get a ticket. Would it feel odd to go alone?

I often go to shows on my own if partner is away or not interested. If you're able to go and show support then do! I'm disgusted at the intolerance and misogyny of these people. Besides she is hilarious, if I was in Scotland I'd go and see her

Bindayagain · 17/08/2022 19:11

I think I was most shocked by the stickers defacing the posters. There are so many things on in the fringe I could object to, but what right has anyone got to stop others from advertising their shows?

Bindayagain · 17/08/2022 19:09

I'd like to get a ticket. Would it feel odd to go alone?

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/08/2022 19:03

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You just looked at the pictures in that article, didn’t you?

ohholyday · 17/08/2022 19:03

Once again proving that it's not about rights, it's about hatred of women.

museumum · 17/08/2022 19:01

She is in no way transphobic. She is about anybody who was born with a vulva and vagina however they identify.

Cismyfatarse · 17/08/2022 18:56

She also said that if she got sent to prison for caring about women she would fix the fannies of the poorest and most marginalised women.

TAs don't like not being the most marginalised.

GreyCouncil · 17/08/2022 18:52

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HatC · 17/08/2022 18:26

It's not often I'm shocked by the depths to which TRAs descend, but this is beyond the pale.

Sazzasez · 17/08/2022 18:20

BoredofthisCrap7 · 17/08/2022 17:30

Well, next time she should give them the show they want.

A show about TW neo vaginas, how they are made, why they are nothing like real vaginas, the complications of the surgery and post operatively and the lifelong problems that many TW have as a result.

I'm sure they would still complain about that. It would be a little to close to the truth that they don't actually want people to know.

Some of her stuff on YouTube does talk - very humanely & compassionately- about the urinary problems genital surgery can cause for trans-identified males.

She’s a physio - her thing is helping people.

thebottomofmypencilcase · 17/08/2022 18:02

BoredofthisCrap7 · 17/08/2022 17:30

Well, next time she should give them the show they want.

A show about TW neo vaginas, how they are made, why they are nothing like real vaginas, the complications of the surgery and post operatively and the lifelong problems that many TW have as a result.

I'm sure they would still complain about that. It would be a little to close to the truth that they don't actually want people to know.

On reflection I wonder whether her thoughts on transmen are what has got her into trouble. She talks about the issues they face as a result of the hormones they take (or at least she did in the talk I saw). Trans activists are all over demanding trans healthcare, but not if it suggests any sort of downside to medical transition, I guess.

StillWeRise · 17/08/2022 17:31

appalling
but very revealing- she really isn't excluding trans and NB people at all is she?
these activists just reveal more and more of themselves
I think it's in the Glinner interview that she talks about trans people with dementia and how they forget that they have transitioned, she speaks with compassion about a very sad situation but I wouldn't mind betting that if they knew about it the activists would be furious

BoredofthisCrap7 · 17/08/2022 17:30

Well, next time she should give them the show they want.

A show about TW neo vaginas, how they are made, why they are nothing like real vaginas, the complications of the surgery and post operatively and the lifelong problems that many TW have as a result.

I'm sure they would still complain about that. It would be a little to close to the truth that they don't actually want people to know.

Lerouge · 17/08/2022 17:24

Omg, that is vile. The misogyny of this - it's off the scale.

ScreamingMeMe · 17/08/2022 17:20

People SPAT ON HER? Jesus Christ!

JanieAllen · 17/08/2022 17:14

If you can go to her show DO... also buy a ticket and give to friend in Edinburgh if you have such a thing

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WellThatsMeScrewed · 17/08/2022 17:06

Wish I was in Scotland I would go to her show.

I find it interesting that the ‘fringe’ is now so mainstream that it shuns such a performer.

I can see that one day there will be a fringe of the fringe.

JulesJules · 17/08/2022 17:01

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thebottomofmypencilcase · 17/08/2022 16:39

WTH??!! I absolutely love Elaine Miller. I saw a video of a talk she gave somewhere else (was posted on here ages ago - possibly in Alloa??) and she talked about the specific issues that trans men face, as well as menopausal women. She is a women's physio and therefore her specialist area is women's bodies, why TF would she talk about male bodies?

I'm really appalled at this. Just when you think you've seen it all.

Solidarity, Elaine. (And don't let the bastards grind you down. I do a few squeezes every time I see one of your IG posts and god knows I need to. Keep up the good work 💪)

Artichokeleaves · 17/08/2022 16:36

LaughingPriest · 17/08/2022 16:26

She is trans inclusive. There just seems to be something about the trans people she focuses on that winds up other trans people, almost as if the people spitting on her make some sort of important distinction between the two groups. Can't put my finger on what that could be....

It's the "All Lives Matter" gang, gender edition.

As you say, it's demonstrated, over and over again.

This isn't about trans, it's only about males. This is a men's rights movement. With a rather withered fig leaf that's slipped really a bit too far for decency now.

Strangerthanever · 17/08/2022 16:31

That's fucking appalling. I remember her Mumsnet posts and I have the Squeezy pelvic floor app nagging me to squeeze every day because of her. My pelvic floor thanks you Gussie, please keep doing what you are doing.

LaughingPriest · 17/08/2022 16:26

She is trans inclusive. There just seems to be something about the trans people she focuses on that winds up other trans people, almost as if the people spitting on her make some sort of important distinction between the two groups. Can't put my finger on what that could be....

It's the "All Lives Matter" gang, gender edition.

malloo · 17/08/2022 16:25

She is brilliant, very funny, and her work is so important to women. My pelvic floor is in top shape thanks to her 😀Of course the TRAs can't tolerate her, there's no fuzzy areas and 'sex is a spectrum' nonsense when you're talking about the amazing female body! I'm pretty sure she won't be intimidated by these bullies but I hope she knows how much support she has.

Rightsraptor · 17/08/2022 16:17

Seems to me Elaine, by talking only about women, NB females - can't think how else to say it- & transmen, is highlighting that post-genital surgery TW are NOT like us. All they can aim for is a passable imitation of female genitals. And if the post-op aren't like women, the 'pre-op' certainly aren't going to be.

A neo-vagina is not the same as a vagina, it does not have the same structure nor the same abilities. Think of the astonishing stretching the vagina undergoes during birth. Every time someone like Elaine discusses female anatomy and physiology they bring the differences to the fore. And transwomen hate that.

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