Page 11 | Edinburgh Fringe comic spat on and shunned by colleagues as a 'transphobe' for show about women

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 22:00

These people couldn't be more ridiculous if they tried.

ScreamingMeMe · 23/08/2022 21:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:54

The show description:

50% of women aren't sure which is their vulva and which is their vagina. Elaine Miller, a funny, frank, factual fanny Fellow of Physiotherapy doesn't think that's OK. Learn what's in your pants, what an orgasm is, how tell a clitoris from an elbow and importantly, why on earth nobody told you this stuff before now. Elaine won the Comedy Award at Fringe World, was a vulva on CBeebies, said 'fart' on Woman's Hour, presents on women's health in parliaments and wants to change the world, one fanny at a time. Starting with yours.

Literal violence!

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 21:11

Or indeed, if I would even want one.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 21:09

AlisonDonut · 23/08/2022 19:37

Shake it Period Bro shake it.

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Shaking it as much as is feasible on a Tuesday night, but not quite sure what a 'whistlin' is or how one goes about getting one.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:54

The show description:

50% of women aren't sure which is their vulva and which is their vagina. Elaine Miller, a funny, frank, factual fanny Fellow of Physiotherapy doesn't think that's OK. Learn what's in your pants, what an orgasm is, how tell a clitoris from an elbow and importantly, why on earth nobody told you this stuff before now. Elaine won the Comedy Award at Fringe World, was a vulva on CBeebies, said 'fart' on Woman's Hour, presents on women's health in parliaments and wants to change the world, one fanny at a time. Starting with yours.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:53

TheKeatingFive · 23/08/2022 16:48

She did, however, mention transmen, people who do actually share anatomy with other women!

Well I think we all know what party consider themselves to be of most importance in this discussion.

Great to see it spelt out so clearly though.

Yes, exactly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:52

I don't think Elaine spoke about transwomen at all in the show

How surprising, that it would be considered offensive for them not to mentioned in a show which has literally nothing to do with them. Can you really not see how that comes across, Dadjoke?

AlisonDonut · 23/08/2022 19:37

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 18:49

AlisonDonut Wherefore art my tambourine?

Shake it Period Bro shake it.

Helleofabore · 23/08/2022 19:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:20

That must have been before my time and I have been here quite some time now.

I didn't say it was a particularly convincing performance

😁

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/08/2022 19:20

That must have been before my time and I have been here quite some time now.

I didn't say it was a particularly convincing performance

RhannionKPSS · 23/08/2022 18:50

WanOvaryKenobi · 23/08/2022 15:01

I did, they are not doing anything.

I have contacted the press.

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im not surprised to be honest. Good on you to take it further.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 18:49

AlisonDonut Wherefore art my tambourine?

Helleofabore · 23/08/2022 18:42

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2022 18:26

DadJoke used to at least try to pretend to be a reasonable poster.

That must have been before my time and I have been here quite some time now.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 23/08/2022 17:38

WanOvaryKenobi · 22/08/2022 20:34

These are the breaches of the Gilded Balloon code of conduct I reported.

This staff member did not foster a safe environment.
This staff member was behaving unacceptably, including making derogatory remarks about a person's body
This staff member was intimidating and threatening
This staff member's intimidation was based on race, gender, gender identity, age, and sexual orientation
This staff member did not respect boundaries
This staff member did not respect how people choose to identify
This staff member assumed sexual preference or background background

The Gilded Balloon will hold a liquor licence and an entertainment licence. You could submit a complaint to Edinburgh Council Licensing Committee.

It's not acceptable for theatre goers to be harassed by venue staff for attending an event their employer is facilitating.

LaughingPriest · 23/08/2022 17:20

Can an adult human female be a transwoman?

As someone who is an AHF and more likely than not, "falls under the trans umbrella", I genuinely don't know. People who claim to know more than me refuse to unambiguously answer my questions about what the terms actually mean. So essentially everyone is talking at cross-purposes and no-one is ever quite understanding what everyone else means or engaging on the same level.

This seems to be by design, going by the utter lack of willingness to engage honestly.

lanadelgrey · 23/08/2022 17:14

Shouldn’t that be f@cker mother ie a bit of trans placement or other it would indeed be possible trans substantiation

AlisonDonut · 23/08/2022 16:51

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 16:48

Bless me holy sperm producer, for I have sinned. It has been many times since my last confession that I have seen with my own eyes and thought with my own wicked brain that a transwoman is not a woman. Yes, I believe that transwomen deserve to live their lives free of harassment and in peace and happiness and enjoy the same rights as all other people, but I cannot and will not accept the holy writ of transubstantion that renders a penis female should the penis-holder claim it to be so.

Repent. Motherfucker.

TheKeatingFive · 23/08/2022 16:48

She did, however, mention transmen, people who do actually share anatomy with other women!

Well I think we all know what party consider themselves to be of most importance in this discussion.

Great to see it spelt out so clearly though.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 16:48

Bless me holy sperm producer, for I have sinned. It has been many times since my last confession that I have seen with my own eyes and thought with my own wicked brain that a transwoman is not a woman. Yes, I believe that transwomen deserve to live their lives free of harassment and in peace and happiness and enjoy the same rights as all other people, but I cannot and will not accept the holy writ of transubstantion that renders a penis female should the penis-holder claim it to be so.

Artichokeleaves · 23/08/2022 16:45

All this bloody womaning without permission.

Shocking.

PeriodBro · 23/08/2022 16:44

DadJoke · 23/08/2022 15:24

I can paraphrase it easily enough - trans women are not women. That's the transphobic bit. If you read the article, you know the issue isn't that she did a comedy set about people with vulvas and child birth.

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Wow, really?

Can you clarify for me - anyone that says that transwomen are not women is 'transphobic'?

On what are you basing this, please?

It's fact. Transwomen are male. Hence the word 'transwomen'. If they were women, they'd just be 'women'.

IAmAWomanNotACis · 23/08/2022 16:38

There you go talking about women's anatomy as if it's at all important or relevant to being a woman. Don't you know that is NOT ALLOWED.

Pfft @ScreamingMeMe I don't know why you think you're allowed to have an opinion, you're clearly a uterus-haver. I was asking for somebody wit Proper Authority to tell me how I am allowed to define myself.

Honestly.

Bindayagain · 23/08/2022 16:37

I don't think Elaine spoke about transwomen at all in the show. She did, however, mention transmen, people who do actually share anatomy with other women!

Artichokeleaves · 23/08/2022 16:33

I went to the show last night and it was sold out! Judging by the audience response a good time was being had by all.

That's great to hear, bravo Elaine!

MadamWillYouTalk · 23/08/2022 16:25

It seems all this publicity is doing some good - I went to the show last night and it was sold out! Judging by the audience response a good time was being had by all. I found it very funny, and also learned stuff which I hope I'll retain in however many years time when it's needed!