Woman told by PSCO that her thinking is wrong and she needs to educate herself.

‘I still can't believe the police force has degenerated to the point where officers (even low grade ones) are thick enough to do this.’

This is the point, I think. It’s sinister, but it’s also low rent.

When I walk around the area I live in there are a handful of Union Jacks, quite a few Ukrainian flags, a few signs about hot potato local political issues, a fair amount of political posters at election times, a few religious posters, and signs telling cold-callers not to bother (some of them quite rude). This is the equivalent of a PCSO using their uniform to turn up at someone's doorstep to re-educate them about their choice of religion or political party, or why they should be for Russia or for HS2 being built through the local woods.

I still can't believe the police force has degenerated to the point where officers (even low grade ones) are thick enough to do this.

The pcso sounds as thick as mince and a nasty little bully.

She sounds like real Gestapo material. I'm up for a spot of gardening despite the 🔥 heat...

‘She put this sticker on her window to get a reaction from people.’

That doesn’t make any reaction automatically acceptable. People are allowed to put up stickers other people disagree with on their own stuff.

‘Same as those who put ‘white lives matter too’ stickers up.’

Again, allowed.

‘Yes they’ll argue that it’s nothing actually offensive but we all know it’s intended to be so.’

I don’t think either of those stickers would be deliberately offensive. You might be offended, but so what?

Aah ok thanks for the correction. I thought they were the same as special constables.

In that case then it's even clearer that tax payers shouldn't be funding this behaviour.

But I'm going to hazard a guess that paid member of police force + takes pleasure/satisfaction at woman suffering = keeps job.

She'll probably get a bonus.

That woman would have bounced back down my front garden so fast!

If funding is needed for legal action, let me know; I'm in.

Just linking to this thread in AIBU to illustrate how police deal with actual crimes Vs thought crime.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4611689-acid-attacked-following-a-successful-insurance-claim-against-3rd-party

I don't usually support people being sacked either but the bullying and intimidation here is so egregious I think the PCSO has to go.

I'd be interested in what Bella's MP had to say about it too.

Spade at the ready. I'm sick of these bullying arseholes.

@aweegc This is a volunteer (PCOS aren't paid, are they?).

Yes, they are paid. It is PCSO; Police Community Support Officer.

Well done to Bella's daughters! That PCSO seemed satisfied that Bella became more distressed as PCSO continued harassing her. 'No one expects the Spanish Inquisition' is supposed to be a joke.

I hope that PCSO is hauled over the coals for that. What a disgrace

PCSO's are 'plastic plods', they are paid staff but ,as far as I know, they cannot arrest criminals unless they are performing a citizen's arrest. Some, including the ones who patrol where I live, are good, others ,well we know what they are like.

The PCSO tells the woman that’s it’s not her job to educate her. Doesn’t stop her lecturing the poor women. It really is ideological rubbish & the PCSO believes she’s the High Priestess.

So did that PCSO make the original complaint? And was it that very same PCSO who, when the complaint went nowhere, decided to personally do some re-education?

Im wondering the same thing

That audio is so distressing. What sort of human can continue gaslighting and lecturing a woman who is so clearly upset?

This is a volunteer (PCOS aren't paid, are they?). She needs to be let go immediately. Not only is she bringing the local force into disrepute, but policing and the PCOS role in general. And if she does what the audio clearly shows after the training she's already had, then it was an utter waste of time in the first place and no amount of further tax-payer investment in her can be justified.

Bella you did well to keep going there and your daughters are ace!

I’m another one keen to know which police force.

There are a number of Police and Crime Commissioners (the elected ones with big powers) like Lisa Townsend (Surrey) and Donna Jones (Hants) who are absolutely sick to death of all this unhinged crap within their forces.

I’m happy to write, to chip in, whatever. People like this PCSO damage policing by consent and the social contract. Really upsetting.

I'm absolutely seething! What utter rubbish that pcso is coming out with. Why tie yourself up in knots to pretend that biology doesn't matter? We have reached 1984 when the thought police can get you for wrong thoughts. PLEASE can they just go out and catch real criminals, the ones who are murdering , raping, thieving etc? Sorry, but I feel a bit incoherent having watched that.

I'm in.

If I understand it correctly, from Twitter, a couple of police visited this woman recently because they had received a complaint about the sticker. They had a little chat and went away, no action, no hard feelings either side.

The woman discovers from a neighbour that previously a PCSO had been asking about the sticker and the occupant of the house. So did that PCSO make the original complaint? And was it that very same PCSO who, when the complaint went nowhere, decided to personally do some re-education?

It really is horrifying.

This is the final nail in the coffin, i have no faith or trust in the police

A new rock bottom for the police …

Stonewall indoctrinated PCSO, I hope she’s fired, reeducated’ or disciplined. Name and shame the force, name and shame the PCSO.

im beyond disgusted, a PCSO abusing her power to gaslight and lecture a vulnerable rape victim.

If this alarming discussion reflects the quality of police training, women in the U.K. are up shit creek. I for one would like to know how police training covers sex and gender. What are recruits actually taught in regards to rape victim communication and womens rights.

This rape victim has a legal right to single sex spaces, she has a legal right to believe in biological sex (as most people do).

So much ideological clap trap sold as fact by the PCSO … The fact is that sex a protected characteristic. Trans people with an official gender recognition certificate are a protected characteristic too but this does not include every Tom dick or Harry who claims to have a different gender.

This

Every time. They’ll say Google is your friend, educate yourself, Why should I do your research for you, they’ll do anything but answer the question. And we know why.