Woman told by PSCO that her thinking is wrong and she needs to educate herself.

I have no words

We could clog the Police lines all over the country with perfectly valid complaints, but of course women taking offence at provocative, insulting or abusive anything doesn't matter and is dismissed.

This.

I don't have the words to express my anger about this episode and how nearly it encapsulates the raging misogyny endemic in the police. If twins nicely with their raging racism.

@Torunette

Bella had already been visited by two officers who made her aware someone had complained but she’d no need to take the sticker down as the content was fine. Surely their visit would have been the system-satisfying outcome?

The PCSO’s visit looks even worse given that, really, doesn’t it? Because surely less a mysterious IT failure, she took it upon herself to make the visit, given the matter had already been been handled?

Just leaving this here.

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/police-payout-after-woman-died-7149447

Let's try that, shall we? See how we get on 🤔

The only "complaint" seems to have been from the PCSO herself.

Being "provocative" isn't and shouldn't be a police matter anyway. This country is heading down a very dark path with this suppression of free expression. Well, some free expression.

So anything I find 'provocative' is grounds for complaint to the police?

It would be bloody marvellous if the police were more interested in actual crime rather than stickers that are merely 'provocative'. That sticker wasn't a police matter. The PCSO was thought policing, not policing.

I wonder how many unsolved burglaries, rapes, etc that police force has?

Are we now supposed to complain to the police when we see something provocative?!

This has angered me no end. How dare that PCSO abuse her power and double down despite being told the woman she's lecturing is a rape victim?

For those of you who want to read a transcript, Glinner put one out this morning.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/a-visit-from-the-religious-police

‘If you’re going to display a provocative sticker then you shouldn’t be too surprised that you provoke complaints.’

It’s very surprising that people make criminal complaints about matters which are not criminal in nature. Why would you think otherwise?

If you’re going to display a provocative sticker then you shouldn’t be too surprised that you provoke complaints. The PCSO was well out of line though with the way she spoke to her

Is there a link to further comments on twitter? I cant find anything

This makes me so angry. Although it also encourages me to display similar in solidarity.

This is absolutely horrendous.

I couldn't even listen to more than one section of it.

How dare she tell a rape victim she isn't entitled to single sex support after rape.

I mean it's fairly obvious in the recording that not only does Bella find the way the PCSO is speaking to her offensive (she's saying Bella isn't entitled to single sex rape support - most women find this offensive) but also upsetting.

I would say the children probably find the way their mother is being bullied - in their own home - offensive too.

So why is only one form of offence being punished here, especially when it's obvious which offence is the worse?

It's like with Kate Scottow. What Kate said might have been offensive to one person but the way she was treated by police was many, many times worse - extremely offensive and traumatic for her, her children, her family and millions of women. How on earth can minor offence excuse harassment and ill-treatment by police?

The government really needs to take control of the police force, they seem out of control. And having even 'non crime hate incidents' to be purely in the eye of the beholder is a clear recipe for disaster and an invitation for vexatious complaints by abusers.

I agree totally the PCSO was totally out of her jurisdiction. I'm wondering if she was even on duty?
She just used her uniform to bully and intimidate a vulnerable member if the public even though PCs had dealt with this. She had no need to get re involved. I wonder what she this PCSO had done.
Disgraceful abuse of power.

Yes @blahblahblahspoons - they don’t care what we find frightening or highly offensive. They’re looking to expand their remit in order to control what they find offensive. That’s undemocratic and authoritarian.

Apart from the obvious free speech issues, the problem with non crime hate incidents is that it's so one sided.

Exactly. You either have the criteria, or you don't.

If the criteria is that someone finds it offensive, and can easily demonstrate why, then that's the end of it. Especially when one's opinion is protected by law.

You can't apply the criteria to one section of society and not another. Or if you do, you should be held accountable for it.

Yes, it is truly shocking to listen to. The poor woman is almost in tears. The PCSO's words in the transcript are bad enough but when you hear her bullying tone and how she speaks to the distressed woman it's a whole other level.

Is Bella going to be brave enough to put another sticker up after this treatment? Maybe, maybe not. A lot of people wouldn't. (I bet her kids are GC for life after this though).

And even though it's not illegal, as can be heard on the recording, it's bloody intimidating, threatening and traumatic to be told that you've committed wrong think by a PCSO or police officer.

Apart from the obvious free speech issues, the problem with non crime hate incidents is that it's so one sided.

Women have repeatedly say they find TWAW extremely offensive, being reduced to body parts offensive and yet no 'non crime hate incidents' are reported here. There is absolutely no attempt to balance the conflicting needs of different protected characteristics.

Because it's vague it's open to abuse and the pushing of political agendas.

I don't feel as a woman with incidents like this and what happened with Sarah Everard (and the police's woeful response) that the police are fit for purpose for more than 50% of the population any more.