Concept of ‘exclusively same sex attracted’

Considering some people are so repulsed by their own bodies, they require drugs and surgery, I think pp's seem quite reasonable.

You're wrong.

It was deeply weird and unreasonable and if I knew you in real life, I'd be avoiding sitting near you on the bus ever again. This wasn't just a faux pas, that post was creepy.

And what if some women aren't literally nauseated by the visual sight of a male body? Aren't they entitled to aim for more in life than "absence of nausea"? Like goddamn lust and passion? Sexual arousal, culminating in sexual satisfaction?

And aren't they entitled to a word to communicate that they know they can only find that with women? And no, I don't care whether anyone thinks women might have concluded that they're not interested in men too hastily. The whole world pressures women to consider men as sexual options. Women don't need to be saved from their own decisions here. Trust women to be able to tell that the naked male body doesn't get them interested. If they're wrong to think so, they'll be the first to know. Not you.

To be fair, given this thread and past history, the level of logic being applied is to be expected.

31 pages of wheedling and still the resounding answer is ‘lesbians don’t do dick’.

good stuff.

OP, you should know perfectly well people are talking about sexual activity. The context is clear.

If someone said, "I am repulsed by the idea of sexual activity with animals", would you say, "lots of my friends have pets and seem to love them?"

If you can follow why that would be a weird and disturbing thing to say, please realise that what you posted was breathtakingly similar to it. Given context.

Not all bisexuals believe everyone is bisexual. Plenty are quite capable of understanding and respecting that other people's sexual orientations are theirs, and theirs alone. It's not rocket science!

Sorry, just looked in on this thread because....well...what is there to still be debating.
Lesbians, I'm assuming, have object permanence. A wig and a head tilt, won't make you forget he's a man.
The op had it in her first sentence/paragraph. What more needs to be said?

This Alex Sharpe?

Writes extensively on 'sexual fraud' (sex by deception)

DarkDayforMN
I thought the same, especially after I looked up her book.

Of course ideally every man should accept a simple 'no' from any woman at any time, and that's what society should be working towards - an end to rape culture, sexual harassment and on and on. Instead women are having to try and reinstate boundaries that have been obvious for a long time - it's truly regressive.

Indeed. Woman should not have to be doing some kind of dance so as not to hurt a man's feelings. The word no should be heard, accepted and respected not seen as the start of negotiation. TW should be respectful enough of lesbians not to put them in that position and then shout and rail because their poor little feelings are hurt.

It is regressive and the demands of TW/TRA are making it even more so.

I see that Alex Sharpe is on Twitter praising the OP for this 'logical' post, and berating the 'illogical' replies. Yes, apparently it's totally illogical to object that lesbians don't like cock.

Is Alex Sharpe the OP? I got the distinct impression that OP also considers themself logical. And I can't imagine there are many others reading this thread who would think that. But I guess collective narcissism is a thing.

Just been musing about all this.

Traditionally, a lesbian telling a straight man who's chatting her up that she's homosexual could be interpreted as a sort of kindness - it could leave the man thinking, 'it's not about me, if she were straight she'd be all over me, Adonis that I am'. Of course, that's not the intention behind the lesbian's words - she may well be thinking 'ugh all men utterly repulse me, just get away' but she doesn't express that explicitly.

A trans woman approaches a lesbian and the same exchange ensues - a rebuff of 'no, I'm homosexual' - this apparently the opposite of kindness (and we all know how TRAs would label it) - so what is the lesbian to do? If they choose to 'be kind' and don't declare their homosexuality they end up having to fend off the unwanted advance in a roundabout way 'you're not my type, sorry', 'I already have a girlfriend' etc. Still, in their mind, they may well be screaming 'ugh man penis repulsive'. I believe that being a lesbian should exempt you from having to do this ridiculous dance, particularly now that homosexuality is supposed to be accepted. If the trans woman is persistent, that could be a lot of lies the lesbian has to tell, and an unpleasant evening in the pub.

Of course ideally every man should accept a simple 'no' from any woman at any time, and that's what society should be working towards - an end to rape culture, sexual harassment and on and on. Instead women are having to try and reinstate boundaries that have been obvious for a long time - it's truly regressive.

What @QueenHippolyta said.

Alex and the Op are worried that we Lesbian women are now organizing together to call out transwomen as men publically and ruin their validation.
We are the advance guard; next will be women's same-sex spaces.

When we women get together and assert our power instead of 'being kind' it's another 2nd Wave. An important lesson I've learned is that I will not rejoin LGB groups...my efforts will only go for Women's + Lesbian Liberation.

I thought we were "bubonic plague"? Strange of Alex wanting to sully themselves by reading the likes of us.

Totally illogical for a female to have a sexuality and a body that is of no use to a male.

Readers of this thread I'm sure will have their opinions further formed by the jeers on Twitter at homosexual females who don't intend to change to be more use to male people's sex lives. And have been trying to explain why instead of just getting on with cock like good girls.

And this is a political movement that spends a lot of time talking about other peoples intolerance and bigotry. It's sheer projection, it really is.

I see that Alex Sharpe is on Twitter praising the OP for this 'logical' post, and berating the 'illogical' replies. Yes, apparently it's totally illogical to object that lesbians don't like cock.

We all know that lesbians are same-sex attracted women. And we all know that bisexuals are attracted to either sex. It doesn't make sense to allow people to 'self-identify' their sexuality, as it makes the categories entirely useless. You could end up with a situation where a male/female, male/male/ and female/female couple ALL identify as lesbian...in which case, what on earth are they defining themselves as?

The reason that actual reality is being pushed aside in favour of self identification is because trans women cannot abide the idea of not being lesbian. They very much want to be regarded as lesbians, and do not like the fact that any woman who is with them is bisexual. They don't get validation from being part of a bisexual couple, but get heaps from being seen as a lesbian. And so that means our entire normal ways of speaking about sexual orientations must go out the window.

As an aside, I remember a few years ago reading a book about men who identified as 'straight' but who routinely had sex with men. The reason they said they were straight was because they liked their wives and families, were socially and religiously conservative, and associated being gay with a liberal lifestyle. But here's the thing...these men can call themselves what they like, but we all know that if a man has sex with his male friend every week he isn't straight!

Seems to me that the OP doesn't accept the fact that many of us are only attracted to one sex. She is bisexual and so deep down believes we are all bisexual. It's a total non starter. This thread will rumble on and on until we accept that everyone deep down is bisexual.

Thanks QueenHypollyta! 'Right on my Lesbian sister. We're telling it like it is!
We need to do it for the sake of our young Lesbians who need
us to stand up for them! Empower them to say: NO!'

An idea: the majority of women being straight, and having husbands/male partners --

I suggest they ask their nearest & dearest - if they were on some island stranded with a transwoman - they'd be turned on by the idea of stroking this person's stomach during some romantic passion, then taking their hand further down to grasp a...not sure I can say this on this forum - the solid representation of the transwoman's desire?

But this is what the OP is suggesting: that we get over our sexual orientation in the same way that this anecdote asks straight men to expand their 'bandwidth.'

And have you noticed that in amongst this gaslighting there's little talk of the pleasure and delights of being with women...

That electrical thrill under the skin that I get just when my wife reaches for my hand when we're driving - the humming of all these nerve endings under our skin at a woman's touch....after all these years.

I can't get 're-wired' just to affirm some man's gender dysphoria....sorry not sorry.

So glad I made it....

(not being Straight exclusionary here, am assuming the majority Straight women and Bi women on this site feel the same way about men)....

You are on a mission to try and reframe homosexuality as bisexuality, and to make it very clear that homosexual females are a minority of weirdos who really need to stop.

This is my take too.

I don’t think that many of the lesbians I know shudder just at the thought of a male body, and are disgusted and repulsed by all male bodies.

And I doubt knowing your opinions which are rather for lesbians accepting male bodies, that they are going to tell you anything different if they wish to remain your friend.

You, a bisexual person, are telling the lesbians on this thread that you think that they are a minority. Lesbians who have been lesbians for decades, who know probably more lesbians than you do, are telling you what they believe and they seem pretty confident that they are not alone in their feelings.

So, no. I suspect if you actually asked that question now at a lesbian event, you will not be given a truthful answer.

So you are what, guessing? Based on your bisexual experience and applying it to lesbians? Because they are part of the LGB community so you are expert?

Yes, let's make "homogenderal" a thing. You identified a concept which needs a word, people who are only attracted to feminine gendered people and women. I agree, OP! Now you have a word.

So pp was suggesting this is the case for all lesbians, and that this is somehow related to the fact that no lesbian can be attracted to a trans woman.

No, I don't think that's what she was doing at all.