Concept of ‘exclusively same sex attracted’

And you are trying to reframe homosexuality to be attraction to 'gender'. Which while being a bullshit concept to many, it is also flagrantly homophobic. And on top of that, you have the audacity to think you know better than lesbians about being a lesbian.

You are asking gay women to reframe their sexuality because there are straight men who want to have sex with them.

I'm a minority/marginalized group. I'm a Lesbian!
And we don't want to be colonized by transwomen who are male.
Isn't that simple.
Respect Lesbian boundaries.
Transwomen; Enjoy Queer groups; they're for you!

Lesbians are solely bio women who are attracted and love other bio women.

This is a public service message posted by same-sex attracted women

you're still not addressing the context @aseriesofstillimages

no comments about the long history of creepy men being sexually fixated on lesbians

no explanation about why these particular men are different

I mean you've referenced smear tests so I'm assuming you acknowledge that sex is a thing?

And let's be honest about this, the sole purpose of trying to deconstruct and rearrange female homosexuals is so that male people are better suited in their identities and choices of sexual partners.

The female homosexuals are not being permitted a voice in this and are being told things like 'learn to cope' (with unwanted straight sex) as a social duty.

No, this isn't a nice academic wander through the possibilities, this is straight foward sexism and homophobia, however you try to wrap it and make it sound all learned. And it's bloody ugly stuff that anyone with half a brain should be thoroughly ashamed of involving themselves in. Leave female homosexuals alone and quit fiddling around with them so they're more useful to males.

Yes.

I met many of them during my two funded Master's degrees in the social sciences and my AHRC-funded PhD.

I also met a lot of people who have no idea what they are talking about and like to speak over minority groups while not understanding a damn thing about them.

Indeed.

Seems that this is a thought exercise for the OP. I don't really understand the total lack of empathy to treat people of colour and lesbians as an academic exercise.

Was this written by a man? There seems to be absolutely no knowledge about female sexuality from the poster.

As you’ve discovered, we are not allowed to make these observations. But wasn’t that a helpful clarification about the smear test?

OP has tired of questioning the validity of same sex attraction so is having a go at ethnicity instead.

Oh to be one of those people for whom they are purely academic questions....

@AmIOvaryacting That is what I was thinking too.
No knowledge of female sexuality. Seemingly trying to bargain to get into a dating pool that is not interested in OP joining the dating pool.
And no, I am not lesbian, but I will fight to my dying breath for any woman's right to say no to any penis.

Was this written by a man? There seems to be absolutely no knowledge about female sexuality from the poster.

Honestly I can buy sexuality being on a spectrum more than sex. Maybe some people are basically lesbians but actually have been attracted to men rarely but as its so infrequent prefer to call themselves a lesbian for simplicity

This

Why is the example used always of black people? Why never use white people as an example?

@bathsh3ba you are absolutely right. It's exceptionally simple but some people are trying to make it complicated to blur the lines. The question then becomes why anyone would want to blur the lines if they do not have nefarious intentions?

Simple truth:

Men = adult human males, as per biological definition, capable or production of small gametes
Women = adult human females, as per biological definition, capable of production of large gametes
Boys = immature males under the age of consent
Girls = immature females under the age of consent
Transmen (trans identified females) = female to male transition
Transwomen (trans identified males) male to female transition
Lesbian = same sex attracted female/female
Gay = same sex attracted male/male
Bisexual = attracted to both sexes
Heterosexual = opposite sex attracted

Saw this video today and I think 'blurring lines' is a nice way of describing what the original video creator is doing and I agree with the commentator.

There a level of cognitive dissonance required when you watch things like this which very strongly echo gay conversion therapy techniques of 'just try it, you might like it' or 'you just haven't met the right kind of man yet' while also yelling that therapy exploring why a child feels like they are the opposite sex should be considered Trans conversion therapy.

https://odysee.com/@Exulansicc*:d/InShot202208155_222257706:8

I thought calling yourself non-binary was the way to signal 'I'm special'. Or is that just a bit boring now? Does adding 'pansexual' increase your specialness because it show that you're willing to shag anyone as well as re-defining your own self?

Is there a hierachy of specialness depending on which woo-words you choose? Or maybe a points system?

You see, this just makes me even more confused than I was before about homosexuality/trans (as if there weren't enough 'new' sexualities to try to get my head around).

I'm straight and don't know many gay people so what I do know I've mainly gleaned from media, I guess.

I always understood that being gay or lesbian meant you were attracted to people of the same sex and that this was the way you were born and not a choice.

Assuming this understanding is correct, that attraction is based on biological sex, it's a hormonal and physical thing, and I don't see how an attraction to a trans person of the opposite sex who identified as your gender would even happen.

(Surely if you're attracted to either sex, you're bi or pan, whatever pan means.)

I have a colleague who was with her male partner for years and identified as straight. The partner transitioned to be a trans woman and she now considers herself a lesbian. I wouldn't say anything to her, or her partner but I do think wtf...

Implying that lesbians should be attracted to trans women is surely implying that lesbians have a choice over who they're attracted to.

And assuming isn't true, then isn't it a dangerous, slippery slope?

I would agree with live and let live in most day-to-day scenarios. I can't imagine a situation where I'd even discuss someone's sexuality with them. If someone brings it up, I'll just smile and nod. I'm not going to argue with them. If someone tells me they're trans, I'll be polite and use their preferred name but I won't make statements I don't believe in such as that there is no difference between a trans woman and a biological woman.

That is effectively what the OP is asking us to do and to me that's a line crossed. Believe what you want to believe but don't tell me what I have to believe. If I'm being polite, I'm doing no harm.

This.

Also, is not what the word 'transbians' means?
Or are transbians TW exclusively atracted to TW?

The term ‘Black’ is a good example [...] i think sexuality categories are similar.

There is absolutely no similarity - humans are sexually dimorphic and there is no sexual equivalent of being mixed race. Even if you consider people who have severe DSDs as such, this doesn't apply to your friend unless they have this condition.

It doesn't matter if you grow your hair long, paint your face, chop your balls off and call yourself Mandy, you are not a lesbian and neither is your girlfriend.

Harsh but fair.

I didn’t realise this was just a game to you. If you’re not going to engage seriously I don’t see why I should bother.

Breathtaking.

I do wonder why your friend and partner don’t just identify as queer

what’s wrong with making your own terms? Why the scramble to redefine existing terms?

I mean I presume the transwoman is not delusional and therefore fully understands that he is male, as does his partner